After the lightning bolixed up all the computers, I bought a cheap refurb that had Windows10 Home on it. I decided to make a partition for OpenSUSE Leap 15.3. I used gparted to shrink windows and make a partition for Leap 15.3. I downloaded the latest version and installed it. It seems to have wiped out Windows and created for itself something that must be related to hell. Most of the apps that I could download and install on a version from last Fall are gone and unfindable, When I placed the few that I could find on the desktop, when I rebooted they were gone. So was Windows.The only thing I could do that remained was to get rid of the ugly stock desktop and replace it with something pleasant. I have used Linux for almost 20 years, and I really don't understand Windows, on a partially working machine, or want to, but I'm having to use it until I find a new Linux. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? It's like KDE is GONE! The folks here on the mailing lists have been more than helpful to me, and I am grateful to them, but now I will have to find something--probably Mint with a KDE overlay--that I can live with. I will really miss the root version of Dolphin. Written from a badly damaged Windows computer (that has a usable Leap 15 on it) but still reads and sends mail on an ugly app from optimum.net. (Claws mail I never got to work.) --doug
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021, mcgarrett wrote:
After the lightning bolixed up all the computers, I bought a cheap refurb
Were these machines plugged directly into the wall, or did they have a UPS in front of them?
that had Windows10 Home on it. I decided to make a partition for OpenSUSE Leap 15.3.
Some details? E.g. inxi -LDpj Roger
On July 29, 2021 at 7:31 AM Roger Price <opensuse@rogerprice.org> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021, mcgarrett wrote:
After the lightning bolixed up all the computers, I bought a cheap refurb
Were these machines plugged directly into the wall, or did they have a UPS in front of them?
that had Windows10 Home on it. I decided to make a partition for OpenSUSE Leap 15.3.
Some details? E.g. inxi -LDpj
Roger I may have been too sleepy. It looks like I still have Windows. To answer, the machines were plugged into UPS units, and the internet thru router and modem. The FAX input to
the all-mode printer thru the LAN telephone connection, which fried the FAX connection but spared the rest of the printer. The router was blown, of course, but the modem survived. All 3 land-line phones were damaged--these were AT&T 4939, my favorite phone, no longer available. (Too simple to set up! You need to be a programmer for the new ones--even to use them!) I will try again to install Leap with KDE. Don't know what went wrong. If it still won't work like the Leap I have (now damaged) on my other machine, then bye-bye. --doug
On 7/29/21 12:55 PM, mcgarrett wrote:
On July 29, 2021 at 7:31 AM Roger Price <opensuse@rogerprice.org> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021, mcgarrett wrote:
After the lightning bolixed up all the computers, I bought a cheap refurb Were these machines plugged directly into the wall, or did they have a UPS in front of them?
that had Windows10 Home on it. I decided to make a partition for OpenSUSE Leap 15.3. Some details? E.g. inxi -LDpj
Roger I may have been too sleepy. It looks like I still have Windows. To answer, the machines were plugged into UPS units, and the internet thru router and modem. The FAX input to the all-mode printer thru the LAN telephone connection, which fried the FAX connection but spared the rest of the printer. The router was blown, of course, but the modem survived. All 3 land-line phones were damaged--these were AT&T 4939, my favorite phone, no longer available. (Too simple to set up! You need to be a programmer for the new ones--even to use them!)
I will try again to install Leap with KDE. Don't know what went wrong. If it still won't work like the Leap I have (now damaged) on my other machine, then bye-bye. --doug When I've set up dual boot I let Windows resize the drive and create the space needed. My theory is that Windows knows more about what it needs and how to move things around for best effect.
-- Women and cats will do just as they please. Men and dogs should just get used to the idea.
On 29/07/2021 20.01, Bill Walsh wrote:
On 7/29/21 12:55 PM, mcgarrett wrote:
On July 29, 2021 at 7:31 AM Roger Price <opensuse@rogerprice.org> wrote: On Thu, 29 Jul 2021, mcgarrett wrote:
After the lightning bolixed up all the computers, I bought a cheap refurb Were these machines plugged directly into the wall, or did they have a UPS in front of them?
that had Windows10 Home on it. I decided to make a partition for OpenSUSE Leap 15.3. Some details? E.g. inxi -LDpj
I may have been too sleepy. It looks like I still have Windows. To answer, the machines were plugged into UPS units, and the internet thru router and modem. The FAX input to the all-mode printer thru the LAN telephone connection, which fried the FAX connection but spared the rest of the printer. The router was blown, of course, but the modem survived. All 3 land-line phones were damaged--these were AT&T 4939, my favorite phone, no longer available. (Too simple to set up! You need to be a programmer for the new ones--even to use them!)
Wow. Would the insurance cover some of that damage?
I will try again to install Leap with KDE. Don't know what went wrong. If it still won't work like the Leap I have (now damaged) on my other machine, then bye-bye.
Well, you are in control of the installation process.
When I've set up dual boot I let Windows resize the drive and create the space needed. My theory is that Windows knows more about what it needs and how to move things around for best effect.
You are right. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS Leap 15.2 x86_64 (Minas Tirith))
On 7/29/21 2:15 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
When I've set up dual boot I let Windows resize the drive and create the space needed. My theory is that Windows knows more about what it needs and how to move things around for best effect. You are right.
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS Leap 15.2 x86_64 (Minas Tirith))
Yes, and if you disable paging and disable hibernation in Windows, then defrag the drive, Windows will give you much better shrink options. A couple of years ago I had Windows shrink a 500gb drive without doing that on a basically an empty windows installation, and it would only give me half the drive. On my new laptop when I started to set up dual boot on a 1TB drive, I disabled paging and hibernation before using Windows to shrink the drive, and it shrank it down completely to only what Windows was using. So I had around 90% of available space to set up an openSUSE installation. -- George Box: 15.2 | Plasma 5 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | 32GB Laptop #1: 15.2 | Plasma 5 | AMD FX 7TH GEN | 64 | 32GB Laptop #2: 15.2 | Plasma 5 | Core i5 | 64 | 8GB
Le 27/08/2021 à 13:06, George from the tribe a écrit :
Yes, and if you disable paging and disable hibernation in Windows,
yes, and even removing the pagefile.sys and hyberfile.sys files :-) jdd -- http://dodin.org
On 7/29/21 3:56 AM, mcgarrett wrote:
After the lightning bolixed up all the computers, I bought a cheap refurb that had Windows10 Home on it. I decided to make
a partition for OpenSUSE Leap 15.3. I used gparted to shrink windows and make a partition for Leap 15.3. I downloaded the
latest version and installed it. It seems to have wiped out Windows and created for itself something that must be related
to hell. Most of the apps that I could download and install on a version from last Fall are gone and unfindable, When I
placed the few that I could find on the desktop, when I rebooted they were gone. So was Windows.The only thing I could do
that remained was to get rid of the ugly stock desktop and replace it with something pleasant. I have used Linux for
almost 20 years, and I really don't understand Windows, on a partially working machine, or want to, but I'm having to use
it until I find a new Linux. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? It's like KDE is GONE!
The folks here on the mailing lists have been more than helpful to me, and I am grateful to them, but now I will have to
find something--probably Mint with a KDE overlay--that I can live with. I will really miss the root version of Dolphin.
Written from a badly damaged Windows computer (that has a usable Leap 15 on it) but still reads and sends mail on an
ugly app from optimum.net. (Claws mail I never got to work.)
--doug
IMO, Mint or Ubuntu or Kubuntu are all definitely a much better fit for you. Hopefully, you understand why. Good luck. --dg
* DennisG <dwgallien@gmail.com> [07-29-21 15:21]:
On 7/29/21 3:56 AM, mcgarrett wrote:
After the lightning bolixed up all the computers, I bought a cheap refurb that had Windows10 Home on it. I decided to make
a partition for OpenSUSE Leap 15.3. I used gparted to shrink windows and make a partition for Leap 15.3. I downloaded the
latest version and installed it. It seems to have wiped out Windows and created for itself something that must be related
to hell. Most of the apps that I could download and install on a version from last Fall are gone and unfindable, When I
placed the few that I could find on the desktop, when I rebooted they were gone. So was Windows.The only thing I could do
that remained was to get rid of the ugly stock desktop and replace it with something pleasant. I have used Linux for
almost 20 years, and I really don't understand Windows, on a partially working machine, or want to, but I'm having to use
it until I find a new Linux. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? It's like KDE is GONE!
The folks here on the mailing lists have been more than helpful to me, and I am grateful to them, but now I will have to
find something--probably Mint with a KDE overlay--that I can live with. I will really miss the root version of Dolphin.
Written from a badly damaged Windows computer (that has a usable Leap 15 on it) but still reads and sends mail on an
ugly app from optimum.net. (Claws mail I never got to work.)
--doug
IMO, Mint or Ubuntu or Kubuntu are all definitely a much better fit for you. Hopefully, you understand why.
or perhaps Puppy Linux, https://puppylinux.com/ -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
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