Hi, I think it'll be better to start a bug about this, but, first I want to comment it before. May isn't really a bug :) My hardware is a ahlon64 3000+, ga-k8vt800, 512MB TwinOS 400MHz and a Maxtor SATA disk. I'm using 10.0-64 (upgraded from 10.0rc1) and my swap partition is about 1000MB (not the GB) The problem is thar sometime my desktop freezes (blank screen or the lastest view without mouse or keyboard interaction) and the HD start to work hard. If I'm patient, from 5 to10 minuts later my desktop came back and I see (on the System Monitor Applet of KDE for example) that the swap is fulled. Apps run very slow an the HD is working fulltime. I can restart my user session and everything works nice again, but I don't see it as the real solution :) The apps I'm running normally are Kontact (feeds, mail, calendar and adressbook), Kopete, amaroK, basKet, susewatcher, knemo, kmixer, kgpg, kpowersave, Konqueror (more than 5 tabs minimum), konsole, kile, ksystem monitor, kicker/kdesktop, mldonkey... I 've about 30% of the ram free most times. I've notized in Suse 9.2-64 the same slowdown, but I don't take care of it because I was trying different distros, may be it was no related to this. But the main thing, I didn't get this problems with other distros like Slamd64 and Kubuntu (with the same swap). In bugzilla I can't find nothing about swap that seems to be related to this. I'm trying to find some info about swapiness on the diferent distros, and I'm suspicious about kpowersave. What do you think about? Are there more people with the same problem? Cheers and thanks to try to undestand my 'spanglish' :)
On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 01:47:17PM +0200, iago f. ramos wrote:
Hi,
I think it'll be better to start a bug about this, but, first I want to comment it before. May isn't really a bug :)
My hardware is a ahlon64 3000+, ga-k8vt800, 512MB TwinOS 400MHz and a Maxtor SATA disk. I'm using 10.0-64 (upgraded from 10.0rc1) and my swap partition is about 1000MB (not the GB)
The problem is thar sometime my desktop freezes (blank screen or the lastest view without mouse or keyboard interaction) and the HD start to work hard. If I'm patient, from 5 to10 minuts later my desktop came back and I see (on the System Monitor Applet of KDE for example) that the swap is fulled. Apps run very slow an the HD is working fulltime. I can restart my user session and everything works nice again, but I don't see it as the real solution :)
The apps I'm running normally are Kontact (feeds, mail, calendar and adressbook), Kopete, amaroK, basKet, susewatcher, knemo, kmixer, kgpg,
Run "top" to see what takes most of the memory. Just let it running a background terminal that you can see even if the machine gets sluggy. If "amarokapp" gets to the top, this is a known problem with its collection mode which sucks up a lot of memory. Ciao, Marcus
On Sat, Oct 8, 2005 at 7:35 am, in message <20051008133548.GA1722@suse.de>, meissner@suse.de wrote: On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 01:47:17PM +0200, iago f. ramos wrote: Hi,
I think it'll be better to start a bug about this, but, first I want to comment it before. May isn't really a bug :)
My hardware is a ahlon64 3000+, ga- k8vt800, 512MB TwinOS 400MHz and a Maxtor SATA disk. I'm using 10.0- 64 (upgraded from 10.0rc1) and my swap partition is
about 1000MB (not the GB)
The problem is thar sometime my desktop freezes (blank screen or the lastest view without mouse or keyboard interaction) and the HD start to work hard. If I'm patient, from 5 to10 minuts later my desktop came back and I see (on the
System Monitor Applet of KDE for example) that the swap is fulled. Apps run very slow an the HD is working fulltime. I can restart my user session and everything works nice again, but I don't see it as the real solution :)
With an Athlon 64 you might want to try running with at least a GB of RAM and a 2 GB swap, i don't have any problems like you do and i have a 3200+ with a GB RAM and 2GB swap. Also you could be experiencing some issues with overheating or your RAM and CPU, run some sensors on your system get gkrellm and run the sensors-detect program on SUSE to find and enable them. Good Luck! -Cameron
El Sábado 08 Octubre 2005 18:11, Cameron Seader escribió:
With an Athlon 64 you might want to try running with at least a GB of RAM and a 2 GB swap, i don't have any problems like you do and i have a 3200+ with a GB RAM and 2GB swap. Also you could be experiencing some issues with overheating or your RAM and CPU, run some sensors on your system get gkrellm and run the sensors-detect program on SUSE to find and enable them. Good Luck!
I know, I've been reading about, 64bit cpu's needs more RAM... well, I'm going to get it as soon as I can, is in my agenda ;) But, the problem is that I didn't get the same trouble with other distros (Slamd64 and Kubuntu). And I'm trying to find if it can be a bug; just to colaborate a little. I'm thinking about to install SuSE 10.0 32bit to see if is specific on the 64bits version. I don't think about a hardware problem because my experience in other distros. I've sensors fot the CPU but not for the RAM, but my CPU is under 35ºC and I've 2 fans to keep the towers cool. I don't see why the RAM will be overhot; but I'm suspicious now ... Cheers.
I've sensors fot the CPU but not for the RAM, but my CPU is under 35ºC and I've 2 fans to keep the towers cool. I don't see why the RAM will be
overhot; but I'm suspicious now ...
Do a ram test now just to make sure your ram is ok, when you boot SUSE you will see an option in grub for ram test. Select that and let it run for a few hours, if you have no errors for a few hours its not your ram either. -Cameron
El Sábado 08 Octubre 2005 15:35, Marcus Meissner escribió:
Run "top" to see what takes most of the memory.
Just let it running a background terminal that you can see even if the machine gets sluggy.
If "amarokapp" gets to the top, this is a known problem with its collection mode which sucks up a lot of memory.
I've done it (leaving x's to another tty), I forgot to tell. Is really strange, there's not any app taken much memory than normal and none working at full cpu speed. But kswapd0 (pid 416) apears allways on the first positions of the top list. That makes me supose about the full ram can being moved to the swap. Because the swap growth similar as a normal use of ram. As I don't undestand why the computer would do it. As I said, I'm suspicious about kpowersave. I've turn off suspend to disk option (which is activated by default but I haven't even try) and I'm waiting for changes. Cheers. -- http://rabadilla.net http://www.augcyl.org/planet/
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