On 2/28/06, Pascal Bleser wrote:

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houghi wrote:

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Is there any interest and/or willingness to let people have an @openSUSE.org email adress?

Funny you mention it, I was thinking about exactly the same idea yesterday.

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Just a forwarder, not a mailbox. This could be given to people using their Bugtrack login.

Could, yes, but doesn't have to. A freely chooseable nickname would do as well.

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Advantages: People wil get an emailadress and then also have the login for bugzilla. This would make it easier for people to add bugs. People will get a feeling of belonging really to openSUSE (coolness factor) Other people will see the domain name, wich means free advertisement.

Yep.

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Disadvatages: Extra server to maintain. Making rules of when to remove the account (X bounces, spam abuse) Extra trafic. Setting up and configuration

Not sure that's all that much work. The potential issue I see here is legal.

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What do you think about this idea and would Novell be willing to think about this, as this would be completely sponsored by Novell.

I like it.

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Am Wed, 1. March 2006 00:38 schrieb houghi:
> On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 12:07:56AM +0100, email.listen@googlemail.com wrote:
> > It might be worth discussing to bundle this with openSUSE boxes sold by
> > SUSE. So it would be an addon to your argument of free advertisement.
> > Plus it might be seen as an invitation to join openSUSE community.
>
> A link to it might be nice, but I would realy like to keep openSUSE and
> SUSE seperated.
Why this?

- If Novell and so SUSE really believe that openSUSE will be the base of all
  future products of their company I would see this as a support of openSUSE
  by NOVELL/SUSE. Not as a free (free in the meaning of free beer) support
  for NOVELL/SUSE(boxes) by openSUSE.

- And as a side effect NOVELL/SUSE has (the chance) to clarify the
  relationship between NOVELL/SUSE and the openSUSE project. 
  BTW. I see that there still is a big need clarifying this. Many people don't
  know how NOVELL/SUSE and openSUSE are related to each other (even NOVELL and
  SUSE people)

- And if Novell/SUSE will give eg. 2,-€ to 5,-€ per Box to somthing like a
  openSUSE foundation/trust/mutual fund/.../whatever it may become a base for
  something we don't know yet, but which will be helpfull I will bet.

>
> > And if there will be such a forwarding service it might also be
> > interesting to discuss having local openSUSE Groups eg. sorting users by
> > region / place / city.
>
> Not sure how I feel about the localized version. Per language, OK, but for
> me the person I have contact with can be my next door neighbour or
> somebody form India or South Africa or Brazil.
Shure, so do I.

But we all know that people get socialized / crowded much better in reall live 
face to face than virtually. 
Doing this virtually is a bit like making friends with a cup of tea without 
tea. It is hard to do this via email, irc or whatever.

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> 
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> > This can be done by offering additional services (workplaces) like a
> > blog, a podcast channel, news bulletin(s) or by reporting about such
> > activities.
>
> Perhaps very much later. For now kust a forwarding adress. The rest can
> come later. For now you can make your own WiKi page. ;-)
Yepp, but an own wiki page already is some kind of private webspace. It lacks 
privacy only because you can't restrict write access on a user level.

And also there is an Planet SUSE blog, what's missing is linking email 
forwarding, private wiki, openSUSE blog (aside Planet SUSE), bugzilla, 
Podcast, and may be some other interesting pieces together, eg. in a new 
template for private wiki pages. So that openSUSE community people will get 
easy access to all this in one place.

And there is a Novell podcast, a more technical one in the moment, but why not 
having a openSUSE podcast once a month at this place? (Or may be aside this 
place)


> 
>
> > Fee / Donation: 120,-??? (60,-??? relief / reduced) per year, donation to
> > FSF Europe
>
> For a donation of 120EUR you get a new boxed version when they come out.
> The change you can donate directly to FSF. ;-)
1. FSF != FSFE
2. This was just an example for a commonity based email forwarding sevice,
   not an introducement for a discussion if it makes sense to donate. 
;)

regards,
Thomas

On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 you said:

Am Tue, 28. February 2006 21:37 schrieb houghi:

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Is there any interest and/or willingness to let people have an @openSUSE.org email adress?

Just a forwarder, not a mailbox. This could be given to people using their Bugtrack login. [..]

What do you think about this idea and would Novell be willing to think about this, as this would be completely sponsored by Novell.

It might be interesting to have a look on other institutions / organisations / groups who offer such service(s) and how it's organised: [..] - Others?

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On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 10:29:38AM +0100, Adrian Schröter wrote:

I think we will have this later, when we have running user management in the build service.

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