[opensuse] installations with cpan -i and tools for *.msg files
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, because i have never heard, and also wikipdia gave me not a complete answer, how secure are installations with cpan like: cpan -i Email::Outlook::Message this will install a msgconverter (source: http://www.matijs.net/software/msgconv/ is such an installation comparable with a installation from opensuse repo (in the meaning of virus/trojan/unwanted software) and is there a posibility to uninstall with cpan and check what files are all generated/changed? and or did anybody know another tool (from suse repo) which will open *.msg files? thanks, simoN - -- www.becherer.de -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJbIjMFAAoJEOuDxDCJWQG+RfcP/Rj6Ig81T4CtDkggIt/MHrNW ittq3rRWOMc2PFXtdbrGz61dXgIOAWHBQqZuROAECWEZKy8g+P+KzmzUFwne5EMT HmE0pfFR8DPv6MVMdEOQHb4tLWPel6fthdGoiwI3DxLkgS0LmgpiyDZ/NvJYAtAf FrrM73cbh5GMfGr7mDX2QskgwnBHn8CrbgQ191w4O+LQfIQ9gGiURy3AxNraf+wP mlxVeNqrgUrV/7ZYCEIP8d9lteyVwcdr6G9SCeDQhKNBwCXXDTmXfBhApE86cCNA +QXZvSRj9Fz2w+5nzVUxqyCfek0dvmf0/LGLl3rUp2yjS+J1/i2IG+ASBTu5ZIUY 0VUgSVEBYikfbrwU6J6ZVEZlPfUjcWbSNiSlY96sQlcQ+zkjr7MDA2/qX6Ntio83 vaJFIWjg6JlFXrDs5IlHa+rLDoQnvSnP6MzKf4OQieh8w1HjlMgcAR7p0cBW01ya QHzYpgRkiosIaPOcHp4b+e84iYVXp1N/oRR9Lm/9g78VgKwfDyt/MN7uW52It0ic 75K3Md2fcYeDgKgIi6ouRFYIM7/vGQ82RKY02g5xZpBfM/M985+Fb11vcPJX4UNW eOCDtC4mwaUCpzZWe/P2Tjeg9HzEZ3hPktQr7PAoBbvJuQT5wm1NW3eE84Kk15zQ hfo7+YK52lJ4FBvKpYhc =mg8/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:19 AM, Simon Becherer <simon@becherer.de> wrote:
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Hi,
because i have never heard, and also wikipdia gave me not a complete answer, how secure are installations with cpan like:
cpan -i Email::Outlook::Message
this will install a msgconverter (source: http://www.matijs.net/software/msgconv/
is such an installation comparable with a installation from opensuse repo (in the meaning of virus/trojan/unwanted software)
Installing any software outside the packaging system is never supported and may/will likely clobber a package distributed with the OS or from a software repo like devel:languages:perl. this particular package is in the build service, https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/devel:languages:perl:CPAN-E/perl-Ema..., however it's not in the main d:l:perl repo and if you like it included you should "copypac it from here and then submit it to devel:languages:perl".
and is there a posibility to uninstall with cpan and check what files are all generated/changed?
and or did anybody know another tool (from suse repo) which will open *.msg files?
thanks,
simoN
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi darin, thanks for info, could you please tell me what means:
you should "copypac it from here and then submit it to devel:languages:perl".
i did not know what this is, i am only user...... is this complicated? is here maybe somebody who could do this? thanks, simoN Am 14.06.2018 um 11:28 schrieb Darin Perusich:
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:19 AM, Simon Becherer <simon@becherer.de> wrote: Hi,
because i have never heard, and also wikipdia gave me not a complete answer, how secure are installations with cpan like:
cpan -i Email::Outlook::Message
this will install a msgconverter (source: http://www.matijs.net/software/msgconv/
is such an installation comparable with a installation from opensuse repo (in the meaning of virus/trojan/unwanted software)
Installing any software outside the packaging system is never supported and may/will likely clobber a package distributed with the OS or from a software repo like devel:languages:perl.
this particular package is in the build service, https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/devel:languages:perl:CPAN-E/perl-Ema..., however it's not in the main d:l:perl repo and if you like it included you should "copypac it from here and then submit it to devel:languages:perl".
and is there a posibility to uninstall with cpan and check what files are all generated/changed?
and or did anybody know another tool (from suse repo) which will open *.msg files?
thanks,
simoN
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:28:48 -0400 Darin Perusich <darin@darins.net> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:19 AM, Simon Becherer <simon@becherer.de> wrote:
because i have never heard, and also wikipdia gave me not a complete answer, how secure are installations with cpan like:
cpan -i Email::Outlook::Message
this will install a msgconverter (source: http://www.matijs.net/software/msgconv/
is such an installation comparable with a installation from opensuse repo (in the meaning of virus/trojan/unwanted software)
Installing any software outside the packaging system is never supported and may/will likely clobber a package distributed with the OS or from a software repo like devel:languages:perl.
This is not correct. It is correct that opensuse does not support software installed from third parties, but software installed by cpan is supported by the CPAN authors & maintainers. See below about integrity. It is not correct that installing from CPAN might clobber your system. The design of perl prevents third-party installations from clobbering that used by the host system. It is installed in a different place. It is also possible to install multiple versions of perl and/or modules on a system quite happily and manage them.
this particular package is in the build service, https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/devel:languages:perl:CPAN-E/perl-Ema..., however it's not in the main d:l:perl repo and if you like it included you should "copypac it from here and then submit it to devel:languages:perl".
Personally I always install perl modules from CPAN because everything is available from CPAN and I don't have to worry about obsolete versions or missing modules etc. I don't have to worry about differences between opensuse and redhat, for example.
and is there a posibility to uninstall with cpan and check what files are all generated/changed?
Yes, you can uninstall modules from CPAN. I would recommend using cpanm rather than cpan to perform installs, see https://metacpan.org/pod/release/MIYAGAWA/App-cpanminus-1.7044/bin/cpanm which also details many other options to check integrity, examine code before installation etc etc.
and or did anybody know another tool (from suse repo) which will open *.msg files?
Sorry, never used outlook.
thanks,
simoN
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi dave,
Yes, you can uninstall modules from CPAN. I would recommend using cpanm rather than cpan to perform installs, see
https://metacpan.org/pod/release/MIYAGAWA/App-cpanminus-1.7044/bin/cpanm
which also details many other options to check integrity, examine code before installation etc etc.
did you prefer using cpanm as root, or user ?
and or did anybody know another tool (from suse repo) which will open *.msg files?
Sorry, never used outlook.
i also not, but some of my customers....... :-(((( simoN - -- www.becherer.de -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJbImhIAAoJEOuDxDCJWQG+BzgP/196EbfyBhnkI5zRLeDsei9s 2jvMnasoULU5ZGp3hK/gMEIpKRZS82dSTVitTwk5rNaBAOhRZ+JjrABVdpIeAuho 0t3aZg0BPDtSgTxPuDBbq7/6iL6JpseVK0vgwN70WixrP7aXC+DfiGzc88vhBuCz J8TBcuDr8p6qj2Ob/n7u6ZKeiTSEdgk1oMLEVb0X2K9sCwXfwOKlsTzyotzx22Bm hMeORdaS2meY7mKuQ7YeFP9f95zRcEoNBOBzxqyiRcOFXAusf9HdXPHllmaRtzpS NxOyBrMSWvv4yw4/nQBWtkl4A2pUiU4GBzf1qhLN0+96+pRHKieD1dG824QkhTKk KzB//L8XiojGrolAI+2AACMPTZABcu4zZSyHpBjzvAzfEdr0Gas7gqBe1PELLvjl qIiqYUMtE+TCLlyxpizO5JdGACjjuyiUheo4uDPAELUSVMM7Y6EaVcvinW2k2Q+r u9BKOSCskDNHSueJBD324Whr9Xq1buizaBrzGurslJquoM6X/iv5dkflbmXqYZLt QSGJ9UadFpHKWcvw5Y5uurDPEK0iZddtaphkZ73q3lMQTvVe2MZQmOgV4Svcj7oZ p3YRs3U1Jgd9M8fLVJi2BW9Lh43yib9jBizfHmV90DV2x37UGlYP0xW9xCGEPLYR yGuULsqeTVp9NkUNYTSG =Nklt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:06:16 +0200 Simon Becherer <simon@becherer.de> wrote:
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Hi dave,
Yes, you can uninstall modules from CPAN. I would recommend using cpanm rather than cpan to perform installs, see
https://metacpan.org/pod/release/MIYAGAWA/App-cpanminus-1.7044/bin/cpanm
which also details many other options to check integrity, examine code before installation etc etc.
did you prefer using cpanm as root, or user ?
Hmm, can you hear my spurs jangling? I typically use it as root, for convenience, but that's very bad for security risk (no risk of clobbering the system though). Perhaps I like living dangerously :) If I need more than one version of perl, then I'll typically use perlbrew as a normal user. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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