Re: [SLE] About /dev/nulling people [A new thread]
Vince: I applaud you for trying to inject some sort of real-world reality into a discussion that as already wasted way too much bandwidth, in my not-so-humble opinion. People: get a life. We're talking about Linux-related e-mail here, not solving world hunger or curing AIDS. If someone is insulted that their e-mail is ignored by the masses..., suck it up. It's not like anybody here is paying for technical support. When it comes to lists like this, if you don't play well with others, sometimes you'll get exactly what you paid for: nothing. If somebody "hijacks a thread", is it truly a crime against humanity? I routinely go to town with my <delete> button on any Subj:'s I don't care about. And anybody who posts off-topic of cross-topic also gets the all-mighty <delete>. Now, was that so hard? Anybody who honestly gets their nickers in a twist about cross-threading, thread hijacking, or /dev/nulling really need to get a real job and/or life. Like I said before, it's not like anybody is paying -- or getting paid -- for the services this list provides. Caveat Emptor. Please step away from the x-term, and get a life in the real world, folks. V/R, TBissell
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bis9170@cox.net wrote:
People: get a life. We're talking about Linux-related e-mail here, not solving world hunger or curing AIDS.
Everyone here knows the rule that when you take an argument to the point where you bring up Hitler, it means that you've already lost the argument, right? Surely somewhere on the net is a codification of a corollary that goes something like: If you tell someone on a Linux-centered email list to get a life, you've already lost the credentials to make that argument. *YOU* are on the list, replying to whatever it was that provoked *you*, and you are therefore just as guilty of not "having a life."
If someone is insulted that their e-mail is ignored by the masses..., suck it up. It's not like anybody here is paying for technical support. When it comes to lists like this, if you don't play well with others, sometimes you'll get exactly what you paid for: nothing.
I don't think this is the point...
If somebody "hijacks a thread", is it truly a crime against humanity? I routinely go to town with my <delete> button on any Subj:'s I don't care about. And anybody who posts off-topic of cross-topic also gets the all-mighty <delete>. Now, was that so hard?
Nor this...
Anybody who honestly gets their nickers in a twist about cross-threading, thread hijacking, or /dev/nulling really need to get a real job and/or life. Like I said before, it's not like anybody is paying -- or getting paid -- for the services this list provides.
Nor even this. I think the point that some people are trying to make is that it doesn't have to be like this. Some of us remember the days when the term "netiquette" came into use. It came into use because people who were on the net back then followed a fairly tight set of rules for the way they used email and such. We needed to communicate this to noobs. Nowadays (that word is strange to write, huh?), there's not a lot of talk of netiquette. The situation online has mirrored real life. Since the "barrier for entry" for getting on the net has dropped to almost nothing, we get all shapes and sizes, not necessarily the technically-minded, who would have already had a modicum of understanding about the way geeks work: because they were at least geekily-inclined themselves. Just like *most* people wait their turn in line, *most* people will want to use proper email programs that follow threads. Perhaps this is some newbie's first email list. They will quickly learn that broken threads make the whole thing a mess. But the newbie will not necessarily understand the problem, nor how to fix it, nor where to go to read about how to fix it. They might not even be able to understand the instructions once are given them. (Hey you, go get Eudora! How do I install Eudora? Where do I get it? What's WinZip?) It's a process. Just like the public school system in America ingrains the social norms (like standing in line), people have to learn socially-acceptable net behavior over time. Through experience. And helpful recommendations. Personally, I don't see as any of the comments that you were responding to, nor the comments that followed, were in any way out of whack. In fact, it seemed downright docile. And that's what it takes to teach new people the sorts of behaviors that will make the list more useful to everyone. Regards, dk
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David Krider