I kinda expected the Nvidia OpenGL to only work on Nvidia hardware. Quoting Anders Johansson :

I wish nvidia would make an installer similar to the alsa-config thing, or vmware-config.pl. If the kernel modules won't fit into your running kernel, it recompiles automatically. It would avoid many of these problems, IMHO.

Anders

On Monday 13 August 2001 23:03, you wrote:

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Hello I have an ATI-Rage-Pro - 8meg video card. Sax2,Xfree86-4.1, installed fine. *but* I have installed Xfree86-4.10 - works fine, but when I try to install the Nvidia OpenGL Support For hardware accelerated OpenGL, rpm -Uhv NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-1251.suse70+xfree86-4.0.2.i386.rpm --nodeps --force rpm -Uhv NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1251.suse70+xfree86-4.0.2.i386.rpm --force switch2nvidia_glx

They install but 3Ddiag says that -

Verifying 3D configuration based on XFree86 3 for 3D board "ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro 215GP (1002@4750)": Tests for package "glx": package ... failed! ================================================================ Package "glx" must be installed with YaST(2)! ================================================================

Tests for correct OpenGL libraries/GLX extensions:

Test for correct XFree86 version ... failed! ================================================================ You are using XFree86 4, but XFree86 3 is required. Run "SaX" to configure XFree86 3. ================================================================ *ridiculous* !! yea right go back to Xfree86-3.xx !!

I have suse sources - 2.4.4 cloned config-ed with /lib/modules/2.4.4 Also installed are /lib/modules/2.2.16 - and /lib/modules/2.4.2 - these were preveous kernels that I'm still able to boot.

The Nvidia - install added /lib/modules/2.2.16SMP for no sane reason that I can yet understand. I was running the 2.4.4 kernel while installing, and expected something to be done for modules2.4.4, but Nooooooooo - as if this stuff isn't hard enough to keep track of - No warning in the SuSE instructions for this install that the Nvidia version for suse70 , was for Xfree86-4.0 , when I'm in the ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/X/XFree86/XFree86-4.1.0-SuSE/ ftp directory . Goddamnit

Now you see what 3Ddiag says - what can I do to find some instructions - that can be trusted to implement this Nvidia-acceleration-drivers-set update.

Has anyone else had problems updating Xfree4.1 and Nvidia stuff ? What did you do to solve it, any suggestions welcome.

John W Mislan

-- I don't do Windows and I don't come to work before nine. -- Johnny Paycheck

On Monday 13 August 2001 23:27, Anders Johansson wrote:

I wish nvidia would make an installer similar to the alsa-config thing, or

Sorry, OSS config thing, I meant.

vmware-config.pl. If the kernel modules won't fit into your running kernel, it recompiles automatically. It would avoid many of these problems, IMHO.

Anders

On Monday 13 August 2001 23:03, you wrote:

...

Hello I have an ATI-Rage-Pro - 8meg video card. Sax2,Xfree86-4.1, installed fine. *but* I have installed Xfree86-4.10 - works fine, but when I try to install the Nvidia OpenGL Support For hardware accelerated OpenGL, rpm -Uhv NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-1251.suse70+xfree86-4.0.2.i386.rpm --nodeps --force rpm -Uhv NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1251.suse70+xfree86-4.0.2.i386.rpm --force switch2nvidia_glx

They install but 3Ddiag says that -

Verifying 3D configuration based on XFree86 3 for 3D board "ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro 215GP (1002@4750)": Tests for package "glx": package ... failed! ================================================================ Package "glx" must be installed with YaST(2)! ================================================================

Tests for correct OpenGL libraries/GLX extensions:

Test for correct XFree86 version ... failed! ================================================================ You are using XFree86 4, but XFree86 3 is required. Run "SaX" to configure XFree86 3. ================================================================ *ridiculous* !! yea right go back to Xfree86-3.xx !!

I have suse sources - 2.4.4 cloned config-ed with /lib/modules/2.4.4 Also installed are /lib/modules/2.2.16 - and /lib/modules/2.4.2 - these were preveous kernels that I'm still able to boot.

The Nvidia - install added /lib/modules/2.2.16SMP for no sane reason that I can yet understand. I was running the 2.4.4 kernel while installing, and expected something to be done for modules2.4.4, but Nooooooooo - as if this stuff isn't hard enough to keep track of - No warning in the SuSE instructions for this install that the Nvidia version for suse70 , was for Xfree86-4.0 , when I'm in the ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/X/XFree86/XFree86-4.1.0-SuSE/ ftp directory . Goddamnit

Now you see what 3Ddiag says - what can I do to find some instructions - that can be trusted to implement this Nvidia-acceleration-drivers-set update.

Has anyone else had problems updating Xfree4.1 and Nvidia stuff ? What did you do to solve it, any suggestions welcome.

John W Mislan

Hi Tor! I installed the XFree-4.10 drivers as instructed by the suse readme file there. ssystem no longer worked - error GLX not supported on this system. probably the 'mesa' I had installed dosn't like XFree-4.xx. I look on suse CD-rom for 3D and find this - Package: 1.CD /x3d1/glx.rpm xx xx Package Size: installed 4.3 M (compressed 971.1 K) xx xx Sourcepackage glx_spm ax xx ----- ax xx [AND] ax xx *xshared x ax xx [EXCL] ax xx mesasoft x3d mesa3dfx x3d *xf86_glx x nv_glx x3d ax xx xfiregl1 x xx xx ----- xx xx 3D hardware accelerated Mesa/GLX driver xx xx xx xx This is a GLX/Mesa driver for the following chipsets: xx xx - Matrox G200/G400 xx xx - ATI Rage Pro xx mx - Intel i810 xx lx - S3 ViRGE xx xx - NVIDIA Riva 128/128ZX/TNT/TNT2 xx xx - NVIDIA VANTA/GeForce256 xx xx xx xx Contains: glx-000623 MesaLib-3.2.tar.bz2 docs glx.sh glx.csh MesaDemos- Okay So - - I see xx - ATI Rage Pro - with xx - NVIDIA Riva 128/128ZX/TNT/TNT2 - Hmmm That makes me think that ATI Rage Pro - is supported by NVIDIA. *This is what gave me the Idea* The suse ftp area for the XFree update sends you to the NVIDIA site to download the acceleration drivers, where there's some readme info, but not enough detail. On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Tor Sigurdsson wrote:

Þann mánudagur 13 ágúst 2001 21:03 skrifaðir þú:

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Hello I have an ATI-Rage-Pro - 8meg video card. Sax2,Xfree86-4.1, installed fine. *but* I have installed Xfree86-4.10 - works fine, but when I try to install the Nvidia OpenGL Support For hardware accelerated OpenGL, rpm -Uhv NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-1251.suse70+xfree86-4.0.2.i386.rpm --nodeps --force rpm -Uhv NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1251.suse70+xfree86-4.0.2.i386.rpm --force switch2nvidia_glx [SNIP]

What on earth makes you think that the nVidia drivers would work on the ATI video card ? *IF* the ATI Rage is supported by XFree OpenGL, then it would be native within the XFree86. Most certainly NOT by the nVidia drivers which only support the ( ¡duh! nVidia !! ) TNT, TNT2, GeForce, GeForce2, GeForce3, M64 and Vanta.

I think you should look a tad closer into your own actions, read the included texts more carefully ( The nVidia README file, which can be gotten at the same place as the RPMS explains in full what cards are supported ) an put a break on blaming others.

I'm sorry that I was a bit 'sharp', with my comments I got bite by a 'gotcha'

( a lot of ugly stuff thrown into the bitbucket before it hit the email ) Was Ugly %before% it hit the bitbucket. Sorry maybe I'm too impulsive.

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Hi Tor! Thanks for the help, I will study the docs on yast further - handy stuff to know - May keep me out of trouble later on. I'll check on my 'isp' - xtalwind.net - mail server they may have had problems. Thanks again John W Mislan On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Tor Sigurdsson wrote:

Hi John,

I'd like to tell you for future reference how to understand the output of yast, and what to do :)

When you hit a cross reference like: xxx [AND] yyy [EXCL] zzz,aaa,bbb like you had, it means "you selected package xxx. For this you must install package yyy as well, mut you may NOT install any of packages zzz, aaa or bbb"

a star ( * ) before the package name ( *xf86_glx ) in the [EXCL] section means that you have the package installed, and should un-install it to install the package that you wanted to install ( glx_spm )

If you happen to get an [OR] section, it would mean "Install any ONE of the following listed packages, no more, no less."

Also, the glx_spm is a generic mesa driver with multiple card support. There are no insinuations whatsover in the description that a card-specific driver would help you any further.

A good working rule is that if you have any doubts, first read the descriptions of each of the packages in the [EXCL] section, and be SURE to read the description on any and all of the starred packages. If still in doubt, ask. Asking people who know may be embarrassing for some people, but it saves you an even greater embarrassment later on.

Regards Tor

PS: last night there was something wrong with your mailserver. Mail directed to you instead of the list gets a "permission denied".

<<< 550 5.7.1 ... Access denied 554 5.0.0 ... Service unavailable

Þann þriðjudagur 14 ágúst 2001 03:56 skrifaðir þú:

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Hi Tor! I installed the XFree-4.10 drivers as instructed by the suse readme file there. ssystem no longer worked - error GLX not supported on this system. probably the 'mesa' I had installed dosn't like XFree-4.xx. I look on suse CD-rom for 3D and find this -

Package: 1.CD /x3d1/glx.rpm xx xx Package Size: installed 4.3 M (compressed 971.1 K) xx xx Sourcepackage glx_spm ax xx ----- ax xx [AND] ax xx *xshared x ax xx [EXCL] ax xx mesasoft x3d mesa3dfx x3d *xf86_glx x nv_glx x3d ax xx xfiregl1 x xx xx ----- xx xx 3D hardware accelerated Mesa/GLX driver xx xx xx xx This is a GLX/Mesa driver for the following chipsets: xx xx - Matrox G200/G400 xx xx - ATI Rage Pro xx mx - Intel i810 xx lx - S3 ViRGE xx xx - NVIDIA Riva 128/128ZX/TNT/TNT2 xx xx - NVIDIA VANTA/GeForce256 xx xx xx xx Contains: glx-000623 MesaLib-3.2.tar.bz2 docs glx.sh glx.csh MesaDemos-

Okay So - -

I see xx - ATI Rage Pro - with xx - NVIDIA Riva 128/128ZX/TNT/TNT2 - Hmmm That makes me think that ATI Rage Pro - is supported by NVIDIA. *This is what gave me the Idea*

The suse ftp area for the XFree update sends you to the NVIDIA site to download the acceleration drivers, where there's some readme info, but not enough detail.

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Tor Sigurdsson wrote:

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Þann mánudagur 13 ágúst 2001 21:03 skrifaðir þú:

...

Hello I have an ATI-Rage-Pro - 8meg video card. Sax2,Xfree86-4.1, installed fine. *but* I have installed Xfree86-4.10 - works fine, but when I try to install the Nvidia OpenGL Support For hardware accelerated OpenGL, rpm -Uhv NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-1251.suse70+xfree86-4.0.2.i386.rpm --nodeps --force rpm -Uhv NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1251.suse70+xfree86-4.0.2.i386.rpm --force switch2nvidia_glx

[SNIP]

What on earth makes you think that the nVidia drivers would work on the ATI video card ? *IF* the ATI Rage is supported by XFree OpenGL, then it would be native within the XFree86. Most certainly NOT by the nVidia drivers which only support the ( ¡duh! nVidia !! ) TNT, TNT2, GeForce, GeForce2, GeForce3, M64 and Vanta.

I think you should look a tad closer into your own actions, read the included texts more carefully ( The nVidia README file, which can be gotten at the same place as the RPMS explains in full what cards are supported ) an put a break on blaming others.

I'm sorry that I was a bit 'sharp', with my comments I got bite by a 'gotcha'

...

( a lot of ugly stuff thrown into the bitbucket before it hit the email )

Was Ugly %before% it hit the bitbucket. Sorry maybe I'm too impulsive.

...

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