[opensuse] Localhost:631 is Not Found
Hi all, I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working (i assume the problem is not with the printer, epson 440 anyway). As from subjet when i try to acces the localhost:631 page i get a "Not Found" message. This is an opensuse 10.3 oss repo "bare" system, no pacman's etc. repos... Searched the web but didn't found a solution ... I also use opensuse 32bit on a laptop and the cups config web page works over there... So maybe someone can give me some suggestions to solve this problem... Thanks, Michele. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Michele schreef:
Hi all,
I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working (i assume the problem is not with the printer, epson 440 anyway). As from subjet when i try to acces the localhost:631 page i get a "Not Found" message. This is an opensuse 10.3 oss repo "bare" system, no pacman's etc. repos... Searched the web but didn't found a solution ... I also use opensuse 32bit on a laptop and the cups config web page works over there... So maybe someone can give me some suggestions to solve this problem...
Thanks, Michele.
Are you sure you have cups installed completely? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 16 February 2008 06:01:59 pm Monkey 9 wrote:
Michele schreef:
Hi all,
I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working
Are you sure you have cups installed completely?
Well, not really sure, but i think so, this is what i have AFAIK rpm -qa cups | grep cups: cups-backends-1.0-126 cups-libs-32bit-1.2.12-22.6 cups-libs-1.2.12-22.6 cups-1.2.12-22.6 cups-drivers-1.2.12-28 cups-client-1.2.12-22.6 libgnomecups-0.2.2-123.2 cups-autoconfig-0.1.0-27 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Michele schreef:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 06:01:59 pm Monkey 9 wrote:
Michele schreef:
Hi all,
I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working
Are you sure you have cups installed completely?
Well, not really sure, but i think so,
this is what i have AFAIK
rpm -qa cups | grep cups:
cups-backends-1.0-126 cups-libs-32bit-1.2.12-22.6 cups-libs-1.2.12-22.6 cups-1.2.12-22.6 cups-drivers-1.2.12-28 cups-client-1.2.12-22.6 libgnomecups-0.2.2-123.2 cups-autoconfig-0.1.0-27
seems all present. Did you contact the cupslist about this? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Monkey 9 schreef:
Michele schreef:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 06:01:59 pm Monkey 9 wrote:
Michele schreef:
Hi all,
I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working
Are you sure you have cups installed completely?
Well, not really sure, but i think so,
this is what i have AFAIK
rpm -qa cups | grep cups:
cups-backends-1.0-126 cups-libs-32bit-1.2.12-22.6 cups-libs-1.2.12-22.6 cups-1.2.12-22.6 cups-drivers-1.2.12-28 cups-client-1.2.12-22.6 libgnomecups-0.2.2-123.2 cups-autoconfig-0.1.0-27
seems all present. Did you contact the cupslist about this? cups@easysw.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 16 February 2008 06:31:58 pm Monkey 9 wrote:
Michele schreef:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 06:01:59 pm Monkey 9 wrote:
Michele schreef:
Hi all,
I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working
Are you sure you have cups installed completely?
Well, not really sure, but i think so,
this is what i have AFAIK cups-backends-1.0-126 cups-libs-32bit-1.2.12-22.6 cups-libs-1.2.12-22.6 cups-1.2.12-22.6 cups-drivers-1.2.12-28 cups-client-1.2.12-22.6 libgnomecups-0.2.2-123.2 cups-autoconfig-0.1.0-27
seems all present. Did you contact the cupslist about this?
Don't know if it's the case to do... also i notice tha this is strange in /var/log/cups/error_log : -cut- [16/Feb/2008:18:43:47 +0100] Group and SystemGroup cannot use the same groups! [16/Feb/2008:18:43:47 +0100] Resetting Group to "nobody"... -cut- seems to me this can be a config problem (?) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-02-16 at 19:00 +0100, Michele wrote: ...
Don't know if it's the case to do...
also i notice tha this is strange in /var/log/cups/error_log :
-cut- [16/Feb/2008:18:43:47 +0100] Group and SystemGroup cannot use the same groups! [16/Feb/2008:18:43:47 +0100] Resetting Group to "nobody"... -cut-
seems to me this can be a config problem (?)
Try: rccups status - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHtywWtTMYHG2NR9URAjlTAKCHtNlA5+QHs99LMNLFV2wwKd38AwCfUcn1 BFettvDjwktKGhPt9ViL2cY= =y+Ve -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 16 February 2008 07:31:48 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2008-02-16 at 19:00 +0100, Michele wrote:
...
Don't know if it's the case to do...
also i notice tha this is strange in /var/log/cups/error_log :
-cut- [16/Feb/2008:18:43:47 +0100] Group and SystemGroup cannot use the same groups! [16/Feb/2008:18:43:47 +0100] Resetting Group to "nobody"... -cut-
seems to me this can be a config problem (?)
Try:
rccups status
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
well it's running rccups status Checking for cupsd: running -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Monkey 9 wrote:
Michele schreef:
Hi all,
I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working (i assume the problem is not with the printer, epson 440 anyway). As from subjet when i try to acces the localhost:631 page i get a "Not Found" message. This is an opensuse 10.3 oss repo "bare" system, no pacman's etc. repos... Searched the web but didn't found a solution ... I also use opensuse 32bit on a laptop and the cups config web page works over there... So maybe someone can give me some suggestions to solve this problem...
Thanks, Michele. Are you sure you have cups installed completely?
It can be completely installed, but not running. She should check to see if cups is running with: $ ps -ef | grep cupsd If it's not running, first try (from root) /etc/init.d/cups start if that gives an error THEN check to see if it's installed properly. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 16 February 2008 08:48:16 pm Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Monkey 9 wrote:
Michele schreef:
Hi all,
I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working (i assume the problem is not with the printer, epson 440 anyway). As from subjet when i try to acces the localhost:631 page i get a "Not Found" message. This is an opensuse 10.3 oss repo "bare" system, no pacman's etc. repos... Searched the web but didn't found a solution ... I also use opensuse 32bit on a laptop and the cups config web page works over there... So maybe someone can give me some suggestions to solve this problem...
Thanks, Michele.
Are you sure you have cups installed completely?
It can be completely installed, but not running.
She should check to see if cups is running with:
To prevent delusion: my gender is male ;-)
$ ps -ef | grep cupsd
ps -ef | grep cupsd root 5480 1 0 10:26 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd
If it's not running, first try (from root) /etc/init.d/cups start
if that gives an error THEN check to see if it's installed properly.
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Michele wrote:
Hi all,
I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working (i assume the problem is not with the printer, epson 440 anyway). As from subjet when i try to acces the localhost:631 page i get a "Not Found" message. This is an opensuse 10.3 oss repo "bare" system, no pacman's etc. repos... Searched the web but didn't found a solution ... I also use opensuse 32bit on a laptop and the cups config web page works over there... So maybe someone can give me some suggestions to solve this problem...
Is cupsd running?
Thanks, Michele.
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On Saturday 16 February 2008 09:57, Michele wrote:
Hi all,
I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working (i assume the problem is not with the printer, epson 440 anyway). As from subjet when i try to acces the localhost:631 page i get a "Not Found" message. This is an opensuse 10.3 oss repo "bare" system, no pacman's etc. repos... Searched the web but didn't found a solution ... I also use opensuse 32bit on a laptop and the cups config web page works over there... So maybe someone can give me some suggestions to solve this problem...
Thanks, Michele.
Try the ip address directly? http://127.0.0.1:631 -- Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 16 February 2008 10:23:30 pm Don Raboud wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 09:57, Michele wrote:
Hi all,
I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working (i assume the problem is not with the printer, epson 440 anyway). As from subjet when i try to acces the localhost:631 page i get a "Not Found" message. This is an opensuse 10.3 oss repo "bare" system, no pacman's etc. repos... Searched the web but didn't found a solution ... I also use opensuse 32bit on a laptop and the cups config web page works over there... So maybe someone can give me some suggestions to solve this problem...
Thanks, Michele.
Try the ip address directly?
-- Don
No way, no valid ip works ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 15:07 +0100, Michele wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 10:23:30 pm Don Raboud wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 09:57, Michele wrote:
Hi all,
Try the ip address directly?
-- Don
No way, no valid ip works ...
If you have lynx installed, try (from a terminal) "lynx 127.0.0.1:631" You may get a more informative error than simply "not found". Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Tom Patton wrote:
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 15:07 +0100, Michele wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 10:23:30 pm Don Raboud wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 09:57, Michele wrote:
Hi all,
Try the ip address directly? http://127.0.0.1:631
-- Don No way, no valid ip works ...
If you have lynx installed, try (from a terminal) "lynx 127.0.0.1:631"
You may get a more informative error than simply "not found".
It's obvious that cupsd isn't running. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 22:11 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Tom Patton wrote:
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 15:07 +0100, Michele wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 10:23:30 pm Don Raboud wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 09:57, Michele wrote:
Hi all,
Try the ip address directly? http://127.0.0.1:631
-- Don No way, no valid ip works ...
If you have lynx installed, try (from a terminal) "lynx 127.0.0.1:631"
You may get a more informative error than simply "not found".
It's obvious that cupsd isn't running.
well, per her msg last night at 7:07pm... " well it's running rccups status Checking for cupsd: running -- " so I guess it is running somewhere... I suspect she has fixed it, as she has not posted anything further since that quoted message...so I'll go back to sleep. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-02-17 at 21:54 -0700, Tom Patton wrote:
It's obvious that cupsd isn't running.
well, per her msg last night at 7:07pm...
"
well it's running
rccups status Checking for cupsd: running --
" so I guess it is running somewhere...
Now, I have doubts about that. Yesterday, my spamd daemon died suddenly, without saying a word, but "rcspamd status" reported "running". I guess it checks to see if it should be running, not that it is really running, perhaps by checking for the pid lock file. The spamd code, that failed, is this: status) echo -n "Checking for service spamd " ## Check status with checkproc(8), if process is running ## checkproc will return with exit status 0. # Return value is slightly different for the status command: # 0 - service running # 1 - service dead, but /var/run/ pid file exists # 2 - service dead, but /var/lock/ lock file exists # 3 - service not running # NOTE: checkproc returns LSB compliant status values. checkproc -p $PIDFILE $SPAMD_BIN rc_status -v ;; and for cups is it the same code? Almost: status) echo -n "Checking for cupsd: " ## Check status with checkproc(8), if process is running ## checkproc will return with exit status 0. # Status has a slightly different for the status command: # 0 - service running # 1 - service dead, but /var/run/ pid file exists # 2 - service dead, but /var/lock/ lock file exists # 3 - service not running # NOTE: checkproc returns LSB compliant status values. checkproc $CUPSD_BIN rc_status -v ;; So... I think it should be running, but it wouldn't hurt to check if it is really so. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHugrztTMYHG2NR9URAse3AJwOvNRCwB9UFr3hAN2/X3PBL2SxswCeNARh ZylDYU2XaIfEt/3gHYlLd8M= =NKfV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Carlos E. R.
So... I think it should be running, but it wouldn't hurt to check if it is really so.
the a "rccupsd restart" with positive feedback would not hurt anything and would confirm active presence :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 19 February 2008 12:39:27 am Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R.
[02-18-08 17:49]: So... I think it should be running, but it wouldn't hurt to check if it is really so.
the a "rccupsd restart" with positive feedback would not hurt anything and would confirm active presence :^)
I've done many times, seems to restart without errors apart from what alredy posted: " also i notice tha this is strange in /var/log/cups/error_log : -cut- [16/Feb/2008:18:43:47 +0100] Group and SystemGroup cannot use the same groups! [16/Feb/2008:18:43:47 +0100] Resetting Group to "nobody"... -cut- " -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 23:47 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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Now, I have doubts about that. Yesterday, my spamd daemon died suddenly, without saying a word, but "rcspamd status" reported "running". I guess it checks to see if it should be running, not that it is really running, perhaps by checking for the pid lock file. The code snippet is rather vague, but if I stop my cups server, the status returns "unused", then on restart status says "running". Even if it is just checking for a lock file...odds would be it is running, since cups tends to be pretty reliable these days. I wonder if her "codeweaver" had a lock on it somehow...?
It would be nice of people to say when they fix a problem, to stop the thread, don't you think? Of course, being a HAM, chewing the rag is fine also :-) Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The Sunday 2008-02-17 at 21:54 -0700, Tom Patton wrote:
It's obvious that cupsd isn't running.
well, per her msg last night at 7:07pm...
"
well it's running
rccups status Checking for cupsd: running --
" so I guess it is running somewhere...
Now, I have doubts about that. Yesterday, my spamd daemon died suddenly, without saying a word, but "rcspamd status" reported "running". I guess it checks to see if it should be running, not that it is really running, perhaps by checking for the pid lock file.
The spamd code, that failed, is this:
status) echo -n "Checking for service spamd " ## Check status with checkproc(8), if process is running ## checkproc will return with exit status 0.
# Return value is slightly different for the status command: # 0 - service running # 1 - service dead, but /var/run/ pid file exists # 2 - service dead, but /var/lock/ lock file exists # 3 - service not running
# NOTE: checkproc returns LSB compliant status values. checkproc -p $PIDFILE $SPAMD_BIN rc_status -v ;;
and for cups is it the same code? Almost:
status) echo -n "Checking for cupsd: " ## Check status with checkproc(8), if process is running ## checkproc will return with exit status 0.
# Status has a slightly different for the status command: # 0 - service running # 1 - service dead, but /var/run/ pid file exists # 2 - service dead, but /var/lock/ lock file exists # 3 - service not running
# NOTE: checkproc returns LSB compliant status values. checkproc $CUPSD_BIN rc_status -v ;;
So... I think it should be running, but it wouldn't hurt to check if it is really so.
that's why I always advise using: $ ps -ef | grep command_name -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 22:11 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Tom Patton wrote:
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 15:07 +0100, Michele wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 10:23:30 pm Don Raboud wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 09:57, Michele wrote:
Hi all,
Try the ip address directly? http://127.0.0.1:631
-- Don No way, no valid ip works ...
If you have lynx installed, try (from a terminal) "lynx 127.0.0.1:631"
You may get a more informative error than simply "not found".
It's obvious that cupsd isn't running.
sorry, that was 7:07AM this morning that she said cupsd is running... Tom
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Hello, I would like to change the default KDE desktop for my users. Specially, I would like to add the konsole terminal client to the bottom taskbar. What is the best way of doing this? Sincerely, - Henrik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Henrik Schmiediche pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello, I would like to change the default KDE desktop for my users. Specially, I would like to add the konsole terminal client to the bottom taskbar. What is the best way of doing this?
Sincerely,
- Henrik
You can go through the menu system and right click on the item and select "Add item to main panel", or click and drag it there. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello, I realize I can do this, but how do you configure the default desktop to be different -- for any user that logs in? Sincerely, - Henrik -----Original Message----- From: Ken Schneider [mailto:suse-list3@bout-tyme.net] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:03 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Configuring the KDE desktop... Henrik Schmiediche pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Hello, I would like to change the default KDE desktop for my users. Specially, I would like to add the konsole terminal client to the bottom taskbar. What
is
the best way of doing this?
Sincerely,
- Henrik
You can go through the menu system and right click on the item and select "Add item to main panel", or click and drag it there. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Henrik Schmiediche wrote:
Hello, I realize I can do this, but how do you configure the default desktop to be different -- for any user that logs in?
Do you mean a global change that effects all users? Or do you mean for each individual user to configure the desktop as he or she wants? I think you mean the first, but I'm not sure if that's what you mean. In that case, you can't change the desktop for existing users, but you can change the skeleton directory which is copied into a user's account the first time they use a GUI desktop. I'm not sure exactly where that is held...probably somewhere within /opt/kde3. Also, look at /etc/kde3rc That file appears to be read every time KDE starts. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 29 February 2008 20:02:00 Henrik Schmiediche wrote:
Hello, I realize I can do this, but how do you configure the default desktop to be different -- for any user that logs in?
You don't mention what version of suse you're running, so I'll assume kde3 The defaults are held in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/, and the files in there are used if the user hasn't done any local changes. If you want a setting to be the default for all users, make your change to the config files there. For the panel, the config file is kickerrc. To add konsole to it, add something like [ServiceButton_1] DesktopFile[$e]=/opt/kde3/share/applications/kde/konsole.desktop FreeSpace2=0 StorageId[$e]=kde-konsole.desktop Or simply create a new user, configure the panel the way you want it to be, and copy kickerrc from .kde/share/config/ in that user's home directory Be careful though, because kickerrc for some reason also contains "recent application" for the menu. Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 29 February 2008 21:36:58 Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 29 February 2008 20:02:00 Henrik Schmiediche wrote:
Hello, I realize I can do this, but how do you configure the default desktop to be different -- for any user that logs in?
You don't mention what version of suse you're running, so I'll assume kde3
Thinking and typing at the same time is apparently not something I'm cut out for The above should obviously read "...so I'll assume 10.3" Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 29 February 2008 20:02:00 Henrik Schmiediche wrote:
Hello, I realize I can do this, but how do you configure the default desktop to be different -- for any user that logs in?
You don't mention what version of suse you're running, so I'll assume kde3
The defaults are held in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/, and the files in there are used if the user hasn't done any local changes. If you want a setting to be the default for all users, make your change to the config files there.
For the panel, the config file is kickerrc. To add konsole to it, add something like
[ServiceButton_1] DesktopFile[$e]=/opt/kde3/share/applications/kde/konsole.desktop FreeSpace2=0 StorageId[$e]=kde-konsole.desktop
Or simply create a new user, configure the panel the way you want it to be, and copy kickerrc from .kde/share/config/ in that user's home directory
Be careful though, because kickerrc for some reason also contains "recent application" for the menu.
To tell you the truth, I find that functionality to be a useful feature. Perhaps though, a bugreport should be made to KDE to suggest that the "recent applications" list be stored in its own file, so that system-wide changes can be pushed out by an admin without ruining any user's "recent applications" list. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 29 February 2008 21:56:09 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 29 February 2008 20:02:00 Henrik Schmiediche wrote:
Hello, I realize I can do this, but how do you configure the default desktop to be different -- for any user that logs in?
You don't mention what version of suse you're running, so I'll assume kde3
The defaults are held in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/, and the files in there are used if the user hasn't done any local changes. If you want a setting to be the default for all users, make your change to the config files there.
For the panel, the config file is kickerrc. To add konsole to it, add something like
[ServiceButton_1] DesktopFile[$e]=/opt/kde3/share/applications/kde/konsole.desktop FreeSpace2=0 StorageId[$e]=kde-konsole.desktop
Or simply create a new user, configure the panel the way you want it to be, and copy kickerrc from .kde/share/config/ in that user's home directory
Be careful though, because kickerrc for some reason also contains "recent application" for the menu.
To tell you the truth, I find that functionality to be a useful feature.
So do I, but I don't think an admin wants his own recent apps to be shown in all users' menus
Perhaps though, a bugreport should be made to KDE to suggest that the "recent applications" list be stored in its own file, so that system-wide changes can be pushed out by an admin without ruining any user's "recent applications" list.
Perhaps, but I would prefer an actual tool for setting system wide defaults. There is the kiosk tool for enabling or disabling features, but I'm not aware of anything for configuring them Perhaps it will come in KDE4.1 Now go and change that silly email address Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 29 February 2008 21:56:09 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 29 February 2008 20:02:00 Henrik Schmiediche wrote:
Hello, I realize I can do this, but how do you configure the default desktop to be different -- for any user that logs in?
You don't mention what version of suse you're running, so I'll assume kde3
The defaults are held in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/, and the files in there are used if the user hasn't done any local changes. If you want a setting to be the default for all users, make your change to the config files there.
For the panel, the config file is kickerrc. To add konsole to it, add something like
[ServiceButton_1] DesktopFile[$e]=/opt/kde3/share/applications/kde/konsole.desktop FreeSpace2=0 StorageId[$e]=kde-konsole.desktop
Or simply create a new user, configure the panel the way you want it to be, and copy kickerrc from .kde/share/config/ in that user's home directory
Be careful though, because kickerrc for some reason also contains "recent application" for the menu. To tell you the truth, I find that functionality to be a useful feature.
So do I, but I don't think an admin wants his own recent apps to be shown in all users' menus
Very true.
Perhaps though, a bugreport should be made to KDE to suggest that the "recent applications" list be stored in its own file, so that system-wide changes can be pushed out by an admin without ruining any user's "recent applications" list.
Perhaps, but I would prefer an actual tool for setting system wide defaults.
That would be a good solution, too. A system-wide configuration, comparable to files like: /etc/bash.bashrc /etc/csh.login /etc/csh.cshrc /etc/ksh.kshrc /etc/profile
There is the kiosk tool for enabling or disabling features, but I'm not aware of anything for configuring them
Perhaps it will come in KDE4.1
Now go and change that silly email address
To what? All the "normal" addresses I had have been banished by Henne -- which was my whole reason for inventing this one.
Anders
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On Friday 29 February 2008 22:08:32 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Perhaps, but I would prefer an actual tool for setting system
wide defaults.
That would be a good solution, too.
A system-wide configuration, comparable to files like:
/etc/bash.bashrc /etc/csh.login /etc/csh.cshrc /etc/ksh.kshrc /etc/profile
Well, the files are already there. Settings in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config will be used if there is nothing in the user's own home directory. So if you don't have your own kickerrc, the one in the global directory will be used And if you do have a kickerrc, but don't have a particular variable configured that is configured in the global version of the file, it will be picked up from there So the system is in place. What I want is a nicer way of using it I think I'll file a feature request Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 29 February 2008 22:08:32 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Perhaps, but I would prefer an actual tool for setting system
wide defaults.
That would be a good solution, too.
A system-wide configuration, comparable to files like:
/etc/bash.bashrc /etc/csh.login /etc/csh.cshrc /etc/ksh.kshrc /etc/profile
Well, the files are already there. Settings in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config will be used if there is nothing in the user's own home directory. So if you don't have your own kickerrc, the one in the global directory will be used
And if you do have a kickerrc, but don't have a particular variable configured that is configured in the global version of the file, it will be picked up from there.
Does KDE read /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/kickerrc before reading ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc? What if the same variable is set in both places? Does the the kickerrc in the user's kickerrc override the setting in the system kickerrc? Is there a way for the system admin to "lock" a variable so that users can't change it? (My guess is no, since that tends to violate the whole spirit of both Unix, and of Linux even more.)
So the system is in place. What I want is a nicer way of using it
I think I'll file a feature request
That sounds like a good idea. Either that, or there's a way of manipulating it for your purpose that we haven't figured out.
Anders
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On Friday 29 February 2008 22:39:53 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 29 February 2008 22:08:32 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Perhaps, but I would prefer an actual tool for setting system
wide defaults.
That would be a good solution, too.
A system-wide configuration, comparable to files like:
/etc/bash.bashrc /etc/csh.login /etc/csh.cshrc /etc/ksh.kshrc /etc/profile
Well, the files are already there. Settings in /etc/opt/kde3/share/config will be used if there is nothing in the user's own home directory. So if you don't have your own kickerrc, the one in the global directory will be used
And if you do have a kickerrc, but don't have a particular variable configured that is configured in the global version of the file, it will be picked up from there.
Does KDE read /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/kickerrc before reading ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc?
What if the same variable is set in both places?
Does the the kickerrc in the user's kickerrc override the setting in the system kickerrc?
Yes
Is there a way for the system admin to "lock" a variable so that users can't change it? (My guess is no, since that tends to violate the whole spirit of both Unix, and of Linux even more.)
Yes, you can lock it down. It's called "kiosk mode", the main intention is for machines in public places, where you don't want just anybody changing the settings. There is a tool for it, called kiosktool, where you can set what a user should be allowed to change I'm told it's also popular in some companies for their internal desktops, but that's a use I like less Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Now go and change that silly email address
To what?
All the "normal" addresses I had have been banished by Henne -- which was my whole reason for inventing this one.
All right, I'll talk to him on Monday But you have to stop those silly comments. Telling a guy that his wife needs to get laid does not belong on a technical list, and I'm convinced that you know that. It's why we have the offtopic list, where (almost) anything goes In the mean time, could you at least configure your "real name" setting to something less silly? Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri 29 February 08 15:16, Anders Johansson wrote:
Now go and change that silly email address
To what?
All the "normal" addresses I had have been banished by Henne -- which was my whole reason for inventing this one.
All right, I'll talk to him on Monday
But you have to stop those silly comments. Telling a guy that his wife needs to get laid does not belong on a technical list,
Yet when others tell someone on the list, in a thread, who don't agree, to 'get laid', and 'get a life' is often used too., I've yet to see *them* banished. Which is more belittling, someone telling you to 'get a life' or telling you your ol' lady needs to get laid? Since getting laid is a natural function of a living species, it shouldn't bother anyone, whereas someone ass-uming they are morally superior telling someone else to simply 'get a life', is nothing other than a way to degrade and belittle. There *are* double-standards running around here like little gremlins (along with far-too-sensitive-sensibilities). -- "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin Religion - it's not just for breakfast anymore...murderers, dictators, child molesters and all other similar ilk use it daily too! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Henrik Schmiediche wrote:
Hello, I would like to change the default KDE desktop for my users. Specially, I would like to add the konsole terminal client to the bottom taskbar. What is the best way of doing this?
Simply drag the icon from the menu list to the task bar.....move it to left or right ends where you want it. Fred -- "Security" in Windows comes from patching a sieve. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello, I would like to thank everyone for their replies. I am running 10.3 with kde3 and I want to change the default global KDE desktop that appears when a user logs in for the first time. After that they can modify it to their hearts content. I will try to implement the solution of changing the defaults in/etc/opt/kde3/share/config. Sincerely, - henrik -----Original Message----- From: Henrik Schmiediche [mailto:henrik@stat.tamu.edu] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:51 AM To: 'opensuse' Subject: [opensuse] Configuring the KDE desktop... Hello, I would like to change the default KDE desktop for my users. Specially, I would like to add the konsole terminal client to the bottom taskbar. What is the best way of doing this? Sincerely, - Henrik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 17 February 2008 05:06:38 pm Tom Patton wrote:
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 15:07 +0100, Michele wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 10:23:30 pm Don Raboud wrote:
On Saturday 16 February 2008 09:57, Michele wrote:
Hi all,
Try the ip address directly?
-- Don
No way, no valid ip works ...
If you have lynx installed, try (from a terminal) "lynx 127.0.0.1:631"
You may get a more informative error than simply "not found".
Tom in NM
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-02-19 at 10:32 +0100, Michele wrote:
You may get a more informative error than simply "not found".
nothing more than "Not Found" with lynx, unfortunately
Read Johannes Meixner advice from a moment ago. Also, you can add verbosity to the log, while you investigate this problem. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHurHCtTMYHG2NR9URAp8tAJ9v0f5+TjwphIMomrHNh/jEdlj5zQCeOfX5 KHjmORNmO0sd7B9JbJ+xA84= =V+m1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello, On Feb 16 17:57 Michele wrote (shortened):
I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working (i assume the problem is not with the printer, epson 440 anyway). As from subjet when i try to acces the localhost:631 page i get a "Not Found" message. This is an opensuse 10.3 oss repo "bare" system, no pacman's etc. repos...
How "bare" is it really? Was it perhaps an update from an older SUSE Linux version? If yes, see http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_in_a_Nutshell near the end: ------------------------------------------------------------- Up to SUSE LINUX 10.1 we provided CUPS 1.1 and since openSUSE 10.2 we provide CUPS 1.2 which is not fully backward compatible with CUPS 1.1. Therefore in case of an update it is recommended not to use an outdated cupsd.conf from a CUPS 1.1 installation before but to start from scratch with the original cupsd.conf from our CUPS 1.2 RPM. ------------------------------------------------------------- If this doesn't help, try http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_-_Reinstalling_the_Printing_System Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 19 February 2008 10:34:41 am Johannes Meixner wrote:
Hello,
On Feb 16 17:57 Michele wrote (shortened):
I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working (i assume the problem is not with the printer, epson 440 anyway). As from subjet when i try to acces the localhost:631 page i get a "Not Found" message. This is an opensuse 10.3 oss repo "bare" system, no pacman's etc. repos...
How "bare" is it really? Was it perhaps an update from an older SUSE Linux version?
It is a opensuse 10.3 fresh install, in fact.
If this doesn't help, try http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_-_Reinstalling_the_Printing_System
Success ! This manual reinstall procedure suggested above resolved the problem. Now my printing system works. Thanks to all you !!! Michele. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 19 February 2008 10:34:41 am Johannes Meixner wrote:
Hello,
On Feb 16 17:57 Michele wrote (shortened):
I'm using opensuse 10.3, 64bit, and can't found a solution to get cups working (i assume the problem is not with the printer, epson 440 anyway). As from subjet when i try to acces the localhost:631 page i get a "Not Found" message. This is an opensuse 10.3 oss repo "bare" system, no pacman's etc. repos...
How "bare" is it really? Was it perhaps an update from an older SUSE Linux version?
It is a opensuse 10.3 fresh install, in fact.
If this doesn't help, try http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_-_Reinstalling_the_Printing_System
Success ! This manual reinstall procedure suggested above resolved the problem. Now my printing system works. Also I would suggest to change the page "SDB:CUPS - Reinstalling the Printing System" (the link above) line 2: Version: 9.1 to: Version: 9.1, this has been reported to work also on an opensuse 10.3. or to indicate somehow that is not so specific for suse 9.1, and may work in other versions too Thanks to all you !!! Michele. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
participants (14)
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Aaron Kulkis
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Anders Johansson
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Banning someone out of personal spite is uncalled for fascism
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Carlos E. R.
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Don Raboud
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Fred A. Miller
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Henrik Schmiediche
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JB2
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Johannes Meixner
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Ken Schneider
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Michele
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Monkey 9
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Patrick Shanahan
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Tom Patton