[opensuse] subpixeling
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On Tuesday 20 December 2011 22:05:50 Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
this page is down. how to install subpixeling in opensuse?
I don't think you have to do anything special anymore. The patents that covered subpixel hinting have expired, so it's now legal to ship out of the box Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/20/2011 10:12 PM, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Tuesday 20 December 2011 22:05:50 Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
this page is down. how to install subpixeling in opensuse?
http://opensuse-community.org/subpixel/subpixel.ymp I don't think you have to do anything special anymore. The patents that covered subpixel hinting have expired, so it's now legal to ship out of the box
But firefox looks horrible in openSUSE 12.1. Swapnil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 20.12.2011 22:18, schrieb Swapnil Bhartiya:
But firefox looks horrible in openSUSE 12.1.
Swapnil You can give this one a try http://repos.opensuse-community.org/subpixel/openSUSE_12.1/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 20 December 2011 22:22:06 Martin Helm wrote:
Am 20.12.2011 22:18, schrieb Swapnil Bhartiya:
But firefox looks horrible in openSUSE 12.1.
Swapnil
You can give this one a try http://repos.opensuse-community.org/subpixel/openSUSE_12.1/
That is odd. The patents expired ages ago, why do we need extra packages in 12.1? Firefox looks ok to my untrained eyes Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/20/2011 10:38 PM, Anders Johansson wrote:
Firefox looks ok to my untrained eyes Anders
No it doesn't. Please look at the two images first is ff and second google chrome under openSUSE 12.1. I am using openSUSE its very hard to make sure that fonts look fine on sites. Under opensuse/Firefox they look really bad. http://ubuntuone.com/0zM9JHXB69IrvZoT989o5g Swapnil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 20 December 2011 22:48:28 Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
On 12/20/2011 10:38 PM, Anders Johansson wrote:
Firefox looks ok to my untrained eyes Anders
No it doesn't. Please look at the two images first is ff and second google chrome under openSUSE 12.1. I am using openSUSE its very hard to make sure that fonts look fine on sites. Under opensuse/Firefox they look really bad.
Hm, ok, on my system firefox fonts look like the google chrome part of that screenshot, and I haven't installed any font packages Fonts were always a mystery to me Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
No it doesn't. Please look at the two images first is ff and second google chrome under openSUSE 12.1. I am using openSUSE its very hard to make sure that fonts look fine on sites. Under opensuse/Firefox they look really bad. http://ubuntuone.com/0zM9JHXB69IrvZoT989o5g Finally solved the subpixeling problem. Now, I can use openSUSE with great polish. Thanks everyone. Shared my experience and solution here: http://www.muktware.com/articles/3135/how-fix-font-rendering-opensuse-121-gn... Swapnil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2011/12/22 17:18 (GMT+0100) Swapnil Bhartiya composed:
Finally solved the subpixeling problem. Now, I can use openSUSE with great polish. Thanks everyone. Shared my experience and solution here:
http://www.muktware.com/articles/3135/how-fix-font-rendering-opensuse-121-gn...
All instructions there that depend on image content (e.g., the required package names) are useless on a high DPI system. The fonts in those images are about half a legible size, similar to http://ubuntuone.com/0zM9JHXB69IrvZoT989o5g . OTOH, on a high DPI system, probably your objection to FF font rendering disappears. Likely the developers responsible for the affecting packages use high enough quality displays that they don't routinely look at fonts small enough to discern whatever your objection to them is. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:12:50PM +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Tuesday 20 December 2011 22:05:50 Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
this page is down. how to install subpixeling in opensuse?
I don't think you have to do anything special anymore. The patents that covered subpixel hinting have expired, so it's now legal to ship out of the box
If I get it right it's not this easy. See this thread http://lists.openSUSE.org/opensuse-factory/2011-11/msg00932.html Thanks Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
On 21/12/11 08:05, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
this page is down. how to install subpixeling in opensuse?
http://opensuse-community.org/subpixel/subpixel.ymp
swapnil
Am I missing something here? System Settings>Application Appearance>Fonts>Use anti-aliasing (+options). And my FF looks perfect, BTW. BC -- It is easy to convince people of something, but hard to keep them convinced. Niccolo Machiavelli -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am I missing something here?
System Settings>Application Appearance>Fonts>Use anti-aliasing (+options).
There is no "Application Appearance" in Gnome 3 which comes with openSUSE 12.1. :( Swapnil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 21/12/11 09:44, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
Am I missing something here?
System Settings>Application Appearance>Fonts>Use anti-aliasing (+options).
There is no "Application Appearance" in Gnome 3 which comes with openSUSE 12.1. :(
Swapnil
Which only goes to show you that when one asks a question it is always best to also state what you are using :-) . There is an equivalent to what I quoted is in KDE so go look for it. It's there - I've used it when I did try out Gnome. BC -- It is easy to convince people of something, but hard to keep them convinced. Niccolo Machiavelli -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 21/12/11 09:44, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
Am I missing something here?
System Settings>Application Appearance>Fonts>Use anti-aliasing (+options).
There is no "Application Appearance" in Gnome 3 which comes with openSUSE 12.1. :(
Swapnil
I responded to you re above but you have not replied either publicly or privately. Did you finally find that setting for aliasing in Gnome? Without your response this thread is incomplete and other readers are left in mid-air about the matter. There were 2 other things I wanted to mention with respect to this in my earlier response but forgot . The first is that there are fonts which are specifically produced to be used for printing documents and fonts produced specially for use on monitors. The ones for printing my not look too good on a monitor. What those fonts are you will find by looking up Wikipedia, but one of the monitor-fonts is Verdana. (As a corrigendum to this, I do not remember what the default fonts Gnome uses when it is installed, but with KDE I always change the default fonts, both in KDE and Firefox, to what I like. For example, one of the fonts I use is DejaVu) The second is that Firefox allows you to choose whether the website you are visiting is allowed to use its own fonts or the site can only use the fonts and their size which YOU have chosen for use in Firefox (Edit>Preferences>Display). I don't know what happens in Chrome. BC -- There are actually three kinds of mind: one kind grasps things unaided, the second sees what another has grasped, the third grasps nothing and sees nothing. Niccolo Machiavelli -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2011/12/22 11:12 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:
I do not remember what the default fonts Gnome uses when it is installed, but with KDE I always change the default fonts, both in KDE and Firefox, to what I like. For example, one of the fonts I use is DejaVu)
AFAIK, all openSUSE DTEs use the same default fonts, specified generically: Serif Sans Serif Monospace Which font is actually used for each of these depends on: 1-Which fonts are actually installed 2-/etc/fonts/suse-post-user.conf The latter is pretty self-explanatory once you open it. If you don't want to have to keep switching fonts in various applications to get what you want, move your favorites to the tops of its three lists, and they'll become the generics. Lately the Droids have topped all my lists. All my systems use higher than average DPI, so the fonts I routinely encounter use quite a bit more pixels to draw than average. I wouldn't know what they look like at the microscopic sizes most web deeziners favor or are common on 1366x768 or lower resolution systems. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 22/12/11 12:53, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/12/22 11:12 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:
I do not remember what the default fonts Gnome uses when it is installed, but with KDE I always change the default fonts, both in KDE and Firefox, to what I like. For example, one of the fonts I use is DejaVu)
AFAIK, all openSUSE DTEs use the same default fonts, specified generically:
Serif Sans Serif Monospace
Which font is actually used for each of these depends on:
1-Which fonts are actually installed 2-/etc/fonts/suse-post-user.conf
The latter is pretty self-explanatory once you open it. If you don't want to have to keep switching fonts in various applications to get what you want, move your favorites to the tops of its three lists, and they'll become the generics.
Lately the Droids have topped all my lists. All my systems use higher than average DPI, so the fonts I routinely encounter use quite a bit more pixels to draw than average. I wouldn't know what they look like at the microscopic sizes most web deeziners favor or are common on 1366x768 or lower resolution systems.
Thanks for this, Felix. I found Droid font when I looked and am now using it. Droid must be a new addition because I do not remember seeing it in the earlier versions of oS. BC -- So, if a man cannot spot a problem in the making he cannot really be a wise leader. But very few men have this gift. Niccolo Machiavelli -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, December 27, 2011 04:41:44 PM Basil Chupin wrote:
Droid must be a new addition because I do not remember seeing it in the earlier versions of oS.
It is not new. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2011/12/26 23:58 (GMT-0600) Rajko M. composed:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Droid must be a new addition because I do not remember seeing it in the earlier versions of oS.
It is not new.
No Droid in 11.1 .../repo/.../noarch/. Droid is in 11.2 .../repo/.../noarch/. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 21/12/11 08:05, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
this page is down. how to install subpixeling in opensuse?
http://opensuse-community.org/subpixel/subpixel.ymp
swapnil
BTW, forgot to ask you - which version of Firefox are you running? BC -- It is easy to convince people of something, but hard to keep them convinced. Niccolo Machiavelli -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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