[opensuse] Installation failure of openSuSE12.2, I need help.
Searching around on the internet, it appears I am in for a rough road trying to install a dual boot system on my new ASUS G75VW laptop. (It came with Windows 7 x64 installed and there is a lot of chatter in Google land about something called EFI partitions??? Also a lot of Google hits on openSuSE forums, but when I try to open them up for viewing, my browser (Firefox) is not showing any contents!) I downloaded and created an installation DVD for openSuSE12.2 x64 and managed to figure out how to reach the bios and change the device boot order so as to boot from the DVD drive first. Upon inserting the DVD installation disk and powering up the laptop I can see that the initial phase of bringing up ELILO boot, (what happened to GRUB?) loads the kernel and perhaps a screen and a half worth of additional messages (too fast for me to read). But suddenly the display breaks up badly with unreadable lines that look mostly like a lot of dots and dashes start appearing, and it appears to soon reach a GUI (composed of green, grey, and white streaks of colors) but this too is badly corrupted and non-readable. So I am not even reaching a point where I can configure anything while attempting to install openSuSE! The display adapter is an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M if that helps... So how do I proceed? Thanks Marc... -- "The Truth is out there" - Spooky -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2012-12-01 at 17:34 -0800, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Searching around on the internet, it appears I am in for a rough road trying to install a dual boot system on my new ASUS G75VW laptop. (It came with Windows 7 x64 installed and there is a lot of chatter in Google land about something called EFI partitions???
Most of the problems are with Windows 8, not 7.
Also a lot of Google hits on openSuSE forums, but when I try to open them up for viewing, my browser (Firefox) is not showing any contents!)
That's because of the announced downtime today on most of the infraestructure. Try again the forums, they should be online now.
I downloaded and created an installation DVD for openSuSE12.2 x64
One important step is to verify the DVD. There should be an entry in the menu where you can do it.
and managed to figure out how to reach the bios and change the device boot order so as to boot from the DVD drive first. Upon inserting the DVD installation disk and powering up the laptop I can see that the initial phase of bringing up ELILO boot, (what happened to GRUB?)
I think that lilo kicks in when EFI is involved, but I'm not sure.
loads the kernel and perhaps a screen and a half worth of additional messages (too fast for me to read). But suddenly the display breaks up badly with unreadable lines that look mostly like a lot of dots and dashes start appearing, and it appears to soon reach a GUI (composed of green, grey, and white streaks of colors) but this too is badly corrupted and non-readable. So I am not even reaching a point where I can configure anything while attempting to install openSuSE!
Please verifu the DVD, it could be that. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlC6tmkACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WJvQCfbE+qrordiMrip98dTGOkkx64 rgEAn2lgWnO8/UtgsQhAlGj1qq4ftsT3 =4d8T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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On Saturday, 2012-12-01 at 17:34 -0800, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Searching around on the internet, it appears I am in for a rough road trying to install a dual boot system on my new ASUS G75VW laptop. (It came with Windows 7 x64 installed and there is a lot of chatter in Google land about something called EFI partitions???
Most of the problems are with Windows 8, not 7. Thanks Carlos, that is good news, I hope... I am working with Windows 7 at the moment, but do have the opportunity to a free upgrade to Windows 8 later...
Also a lot of Google hits on openSuSE forums, but when I try to open them up for viewing, my browser (Firefox) is not showing any contents!)
That's because of the announced downtime today on most of the infraestructure. Try again the forums, they should be online now. OK, yes the forums are back today..
I downloaded and created an installation DVD for openSuSE12.2 x64
One important step is to verify the DVD. There should be an entry in the menu where you can do it. I used K3B to create the DVD. The md5 sum that it calculated for the .iso image is the same as the md5 sum reported on the openSuSE web site. I also check the box to verify written data when I burned the DVD. Apart from that I do not know what else I can do.
and managed to figure out how to reach the bios and change the device boot order so as to boot from the DVD drive first. Upon inserting the DVD installation disk and powering up the laptop I can see that the initial phase of bringing up ELILO boot, (what happened to GRUB?)
I think that lilo kicks in when EFI is involved, but I'm not sure. If does, in fact from reading the links that Carl Fletcher pointed me to, it is suppose to.
loads the kernel and perhaps a screen and a half worth of additional messages (too fast for me to read). But suddenly the display breaks up badly with unreadable lines that look mostly like a lot of dots and dashes start appearing, and it appears to soon reach a GUI (composed of green, grey, and white streaks of colors) but this too is badly corrupted and non-readable. So I am not even reaching a point where I can configure anything while attempting to install openSuSE!
Please verifu the DVD, it could be that. As I said, I think I did verify the DVD as best as I know how to. This
On 12/1/2012 6:01 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: problem is persisting, I start the install and at first it appears to be working OK, and I do see a lot of readable text messages, but shortly into the process the display of these messages becomes corrupted as they are outputted. My guess is that the installation process is trying to detect what video adapter I am using and to load a driver for it? I dunno how to proceed, I cannot copy/paste anything or even try to manually copy much of what I am seeing since the display becomes really corrupted. Like I said, at first the text messages become corrupted, then it certainly appears as if it is trying to bring up the initial GUI but can't display it properly either. Marc...
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar)
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2012-12-02 at 10:06 -0800, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
On 12/1/2012 6:01 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Most of the problems are with Windows 8, not 7. Thanks Carlos, that is good news, I hope... I am working with Windows 7 at the moment, but do have the opportunity to a free upgrade to Windows 8 later...
You are not seeing the problem I thought when I wrote that, I'm afraid, it is a different one.
I downloaded and created an installation DVD for openSuSE12.2 x64
One important step is to verify the DVD. There should be an entry in the menu where you can do it. I used K3B to create the DVD. The md5 sum that it calculated for the .iso image is the same as the md5 sum reported on the openSuSE web site. I also check the box to verify written data when I burned the DVD. Apart from that I do not know what else I can do.
I suppose that you told k3b to verify the DVD after burning it. Failing that, the other test is to boot the DVD and tell it to autocheck.
As I said, I think I did verify the DVD as best as I know how to. This problem is persisting, I start the install and at first it appears to be working OK, and I do see a lot of readable text messages, but shortly into the process the display of these messages becomes corrupted as they are outputted. My guess is that the installation process is trying to detect what video adapter I am using and to load a driver for it? I dunno how to proceed, I cannot copy/paste anything or even try to manually copy much of what I am seeing since the display becomes really corrupted. Like I said, at first the text messages become corrupted, then it certainly appears as if it is trying to bring up the initial GUI but can't display it properly either.
I always forget the incantations that one has to do in these cases. I think you need to boot the dvd with the option "nomodeset". Have a look at <https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/i386/openSUSE/12.2/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html>, section 5.1. Initializing Graphics with KMS (Kernel Mode Setting). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlC75NoACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XcPgCgjlDc9VJnmsI/ekMKSg1l8cdG 0P8Anib99qeanSAOybx0QPW5+WpZ+ogF =Eewd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/2/2012 3:31 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: Thanks Carlos, You put me on what appears to be the right track, but it was NOT easy to figure out!!! I will explain in a moment why... I have gotten past the video corruption issue I mentioned in my previous email..
I suppose that you told k3b to verify the DVD after burning it.
Failing that, the other test is to boot the DVD and tell it to autocheck. I don't see how to do that, but since it seems to be working now, I
Yes. presume the DVD was written OK...
As I said, I think I did verify the DVD as best as I know how to. This problem is persisting, I start the install and at first it appears to be working OK, and I do see a lot of readable text messages, but shortly into the process the display of these messages becomes corrupted as they are outputted. My guess is that the installation process is trying to detect what video adapter I am using and to load a driver for it? I dunno how to proceed, I cannot copy/paste anything or even try to manually copy much of what I am seeing since the display becomes really corrupted. Like I said, at first the text messages become corrupted, then it certainly appears as if it is trying to bring up the initial GUI but can't display it properly either.
I always forget the incantations that one has to do in these cases. I think you need to boot the dvd with the option "nomodeset".
Have a look at <https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/i386/openSUSE/12.2/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html>, section 5.1. Initializing Graphics with KMS (Kernel Mode Setting).
The installation process needs to be seriously rethought a bit! IMHO! The installation code, by default, from the DVD simply jumps right in an starts installing openSuSE without pausing to allow the user to enter an option such as "nomodeset" After much searching around (and a LOT of trial and errors) I finally discovered that if one hits the "magic" tab key, right after ELILO starts to it install itself, you can pause the installation process and a "menu" of options will be presented. (Would have been nice if the installation script would inform the user about the tab key!!) Again no hint or directions are provided as to how to set an option either, and proceed, so more trial and errors later I discovered that the magic incantation is simply to type in - linux nomodeset I was assuming, from what I read, that one is suppose to add a dash (or two) in front of an option as is done with a lot of linux command options. Again, IMHO, an installer ought to act as a guide for a user and show him/her the way to the solutions that he/she might need. The openSuSE12.2 installer failed badly and I fear will cause a lot of trouble for others as well. That said, I now am able to proceed with the installation process, (no video corruption issues) but have encountered a new issue that I am not sure how to answer. (I am unfamiliar with ELILO and was used to the old GRUB style of setting up the boot menus, so hopefully someone will be able to answer my next question. And no, no joy doing internet searches yet...) My laptop came with two separate disk drives, Windows 7 was installed on one of them. along with a few other Windows related partitions. The second disk was simply partitioned into two data drives, which I removed. I used the SuSE installer's disk partition tool to set up partitions on this second drive for swap, /, and /home and when finished I noticed that it had also created a boot volume as well. (similar to the boot volume on the first disk drive that boots up Windozs) That surprised me so I have stopped and am doing further research. My question is, is this correct? Should there be a boot partition on each drive and will ELILO automatically configure a "chainloader" for Windows and set up a menu entry for both Windows and openSuSE such as GRUB did? I cannot examine, using the installer, the boot menu that will be created, like I used to be able to do, and I don't want to risk destroying the laptop's ability to boot up Windoz as well.. Marc... "The Truth is out there" - Spooky -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/04/2012 12:47 AM, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
On 12/2/2012 3:31 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I suppose that you told k3b to verify the DVD after burning it.
Failing that, the other test is to boot the DVD and tell it to autocheck. I don't see how to do that, but since it seems to be working now, I
Yes. presume the DVD was written OK...
it is unsafe to presume.. checking is very easy, just boot from the DVD and use the arrow keys to select "Check Installation Media" as you see here http://tinyurl.com/3qde66h dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2012-12-03 at 15:47 -0800, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
On 12/2/2012 3:31 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Failing that, the other test is to boot the DVD and tell it to autocheck. I don't see how to do that, but since it seems to be working now, I presume the DVD was written OK...
The boot menu of the DVD should have a menu, and one of the entries should be the one that checks the DVD itself. (... problem typing the modeset option)
failed badly and I fear will cause a lot of trouble for others as well. That said, I now am able to proceed with the installation process, (no video corruption issues) but have encountered a new issue that I am not sure how to answer. (I am unfamiliar with ELILO and was used to the old GRUB style of setting up the boot menus, so hopefully someone will be able to answer my next question. And no, no joy doing internet searches yet...)
My laptop came with two separate disk drives, Windows 7 was installed on one of them. along with a few other Windows related partitions. The second disk was simply partitioned into two data drives, which I removed. I used the SuSE installer's disk partition tool to set up partitions on this second drive for swap, /, and /home and when finished I noticed that it had also created a boot volume as well.
I think that you have an UEFI bios, so that you get elilo instead of grub in the dvd, and then that boot partition (formatted as fat). The output of "fdisk -l" might confirm this. I'm not at all familiar with that setup, and I would suggest you turn instead to the folks at the openSUSE forums, the installation-boot-login one. Several people had that type of problems and some helpers are more familiar with those than me. <http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-login/> - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlC+BWcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UdngCeIbGRi2hCHlcW25kxjuv2juck T0oAn1DFWFPZussbvBGXHl9ybtprxgP1 =u1FI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/12/12 01:34, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Searching around on the internet, it appears I am in for a rough road trying to install a dual boot system on my new ASUS G75VW laptop. (It came with Windows 7 x64 installed and there is a lot of chatter in Google land about something called EFI partitions??? Also a lot of Google hits on openSuSE forums, but when I try to open them up for viewing, my browser (Firefox) is not showing any contents!)
I downloaded and created an installation DVD for openSuSE12.2 x64 and managed to figure out how to reach the bios and change the device boot order so as to boot from the DVD drive first. Upon inserting the DVD installation disk and powering up the laptop I can see that the initial phase of bringing up ELILO boot, (what happened to GRUB?) loads the kernel and perhaps a screen and a half worth of additional messages (too fast for me to read). But suddenly the display breaks up badly with unreadable lines that look mostly like a lot of dots and dashes start appearing, and it appears to soon reach a GUI (composed of green, grey, and white streaks of colors) but this too is badly corrupted and non-readable. So I am not even reaching a point where I can configure anything while attempting to install openSuSE!
The display adapter is an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M if that helps...
So how do I proceed? Thanks Marc...
Check this https://forums.opensuse.org/content/102-booting-opensuse-uefi-bios-elilo-gru... and https://forums.opensuse.org/content/105-booting-opensuse-uefi-bios-elilo-gru... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/1/2012 7:50 PM, Carl Fletcher wrote:
On 02/12/12 01:34, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Searching around on the internet, it appears I am in for a rough road trying to install a dual boot system on my new ASUS G75VW laptop. (It came with Windows 7 x64 installed and there is a lot of chatter in Google land about something called EFI partitions??? Also a lot of Google hits on openSuSE forums, but when I try to open them up for viewing, my browser (Firefox) is not showing any contents!)
I downloaded and created an installation DVD for openSuSE12.2 x64 and managed to figure out how to reach the bios and change the device boot order so as to boot from the DVD drive first. Upon inserting the DVD installation disk and powering up the laptop I can see that the initial phase of bringing up ELILO boot, (what happened to GRUB?) loads the kernel and perhaps a screen and a half worth of additional messages (too fast for me to read). But suddenly the display breaks up badly with unreadable lines that look mostly like a lot of dots and dashes start appearing, and it appears to soon reach a GUI (composed of green, grey, and white streaks of colors) but this too is badly corrupted and non-readable. So I am not even reaching a point where I can configure anything while attempting to install openSuSE!
The display adapter is an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M if that helps...
So how do I proceed? Thanks Marc...
Check this https://forums.opensuse.org/content/102-booting-opensuse-uefi-bios-elilo-gru...
and
https://forums.opensuse.org/content/105-booting-opensuse-uefi-bios-elilo-gru...
Thanks Carl, I read these and looks like they will be really helpful, if/when I get past the display corruption problem I am seeing while trying to install openSuSE. The forums are back online today, so I have been searching for any related issues to the problem I am having but so far no joy.... Marc -- "The Truth is out there" - Spooky -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/03/2012 02:10 AM, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
On 12/1/2012 7:50 PM, Carl Fletcher wrote:
On 02/12/12 01:34, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Searching around on the internet, it appears I am in for a rough road trying to install a dual boot system on my new ASUS G75VW laptop. (It came with Windows 7 x64 installed and there is a lot of chatter in Google land about something called EFI partitions??? Also a lot of Google hits on openSuSE forums, but when I try to open them up for viewing, my browser (Firefox) is not showing any contents!)
I downloaded and created an installation DVD for openSuSE12.2 x64 and managed to figure out how to reach the bios and change the device boot order so as to boot from the DVD drive first. Upon inserting the DVD installation disk and powering up the laptop I can see that the initial phase of bringing up ELILO boot, (what happened to GRUB?) loads the kernel and perhaps a screen and a half worth of additional messages (too fast for me to read). But suddenly the display breaks up badly with unreadable lines that look mostly like a lot of dots and dashes start appearing, and it appears to soon reach a GUI (composed of green, grey, and white streaks of colors) but this too is badly corrupted and non-readable. So I am not even reaching a point where I can configure anything while attempting to install openSuSE!
The display adapter is an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M if that helps...
So how do I proceed? Thanks Marc...
Check this https://forums.opensuse.org/content/102-booting-opensuse-uefi-bios-elilo-gru...
and
https://forums.opensuse.org/content/105-booting-opensuse-uefi-bios-elilo-gru...
Thanks Carl, I read these and looks like they will be really helpful, if/when I get past the display corruption problem I am seeing while trying to install openSuSE. The forums are back online today, so I have been searching for any related issues to the problem I am having but so far no joy....
Marc
Hey, for those of you who know more about this sort of thing, why was Marc not able to install Grub2 with the installation DVD? The link that Carl sent gave a good explanation for installing openSUSE with ELILO, but it was for openSUSE 12.1, not 12.2. The instructions there mentioned that Grub2 is not available on the installation DVD, but that only applies to 12.1, since Grub2 is now the default on 12.2. Grub2 supports UEFI systems while Grub Legacy does not. -- George Olson Box #1: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.2 | AMD Phenom IIX4 | 64 | ATI Radeon HD 3300 | 16GB Box #2: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.1 | AMD Athlon X3 | 64 | nVidia C61 GeForce 7025 | 4GB Laptop: 12.2 | KDE 4.9.2 | Core i7-2620M | 64 | Intel HD Graphics 3000 | 8GB learning openSUSE and loving it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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