-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 March 2003 22:24 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:

On Sunday 23 March 2003 04:54, Curtis Rey wrote:

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My problem is that I have a tgz file and none of the commands to anything. I have tried zcat <various options> winetools-0.2.2.tgz

Which options, and what did you expect zcat to do? zcat will simply cat the tar file to standard output. Not really usable on its own

tar xvzf would be the standard way of unpacking a tgz Yes, that was the command issued but it tells me it's not in tar format.

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and also all of these with various pipes "|" such as zcat winetools-0.2.2.tgz | wc -c etc ..,

I have had some tgz the decomp with the zcat (don't ask me why - seriously, in the howto of a couple of packages I've used :-/). I was ranting wildly at this point. I tried ungzip with a |tar xvzf and various, also zcat was given to check the file size against the website and this also failed. And many other. I have had some definite problems as well with rpms in RH 8 as well, sometimes it just sits there, other times, it will unpack/install fine... no consistany. The damn browser in Gnome kept trying to save the file as .tgz.html file ( :-/ ) and would give conflicting info on the file, i.e file size and format. I have noticed this problem after getting the updates using "up2date". It also loaded 2 more versions of the kernel automatically - lol :p tar xvzf gives me: gzip: stdin" not in gzip format tar: Child returned status 1 tar: Error exit delayed from previous error gunzip gives a "not in gzip format" message gzip -d gives the same message, I manually used the ftp in command line and got the file to dl properly, but still had problems unpacking it. Funny part is that after reboot it functions properly.... go figure (shrug shoulder). Still not really impressed with Redhat, It's a bit.. well.. quircky, kludgy, uhh... funky. I just don't get it what RH is aiming at. But maybe they weren't concerned with me "getting" it in the 1st place. It's just very weird to deal with the way RH has things laid out and the way one must get work done. Maybe I'm to SuSE'fied or maybe RH is just weird - I don't know. I only know that I have less problems with SuSE than other distros. Mandrake 9.0 was ok, but updating the system is not easy either, and no current KDE, or wine config/setup tool either, and Mandrake kinda makes it hard to use their ftp site. Doing a wine setup by hand is not all that much fun, and it's time consuming as well. So, far (I realize I'm biased) SuSE is kicking some serious ass in many areas IMHO. Cheers, Curtis. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+fUVd7WVLiDrqeksRAhi4AJ4jq6nLfHjBJSHNdzGp5GMeLQhCjwCfXAN3 TqYZTk2bPQAB2q8qpXac+bU= =kp4b -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 March 2003 23:39 pm, alan@ibgames.com wrote:

On 22 Mar 2003 at 23:25, Curtis Rey wrote:

From: Curtis Rey Send reply to: crrey@charter.net To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Date sent: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 23:25:46 -0600 Subject: Re: [SLE] RH 8.0 ineptitude and tgz format.

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I manually used the ftp in command line and got the file to dl properly, but still had problems unpacking it.

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You didn't accidently transfer it in ASCII mode by any chance?

Ya, I thought that might have been what had happened, I've had that happen before, but I always issue the "binary" flag when using ftp. It's behaving as it should now, but still a bit kludgy IMHO. Wine is working as it should and the program installed and is running properly so far, cut scene is the test, and there are occasional skips in the sound at times. So far, between RH and Mandrake I'm undecided. There are nice features in both, and yet I can see how this is not amenable to new users. Like I said, I'm probably rather biased, but SuSE seems to be much more well rounded relating to install of the OS and various configuration methods available. I would like to shakedown RH some more before I move on to Gentoo and a few others. I still can't figure out why both moz in gnome and konq in kde are acting the way they do when dl'ing files/packages. As I said, I rebooted and it's acting more as expected, but don't ask me why. Cheers, Curtis. l -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+fU+q7WVLiDrqeksRAgIkAKDWokwWRuE61TwJy8mYmw2YIO2AmgCglhlN dLs+EWNJ0Tb9iKC9kvEND/0= =7Ov7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 March 2003 23:56 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:

On Sunday 23 March 2003 06:25, Curtis Rey wrote:

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tar xvzf gives me:

gzip: stdin" not in gzip format tar: Child returned status 1 tar: Error exit delayed from previous error

So it's not a zipped file? Is this before or after gunzip? gunzip will unzip the file and give you a normal tar file, and if you have a normal tar file you shouldn't use the z flag to tar. "tar xvf file.tar" is enough in that case.

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gunzip gives a "not in gzip format" message gzip -d gives the same message,

gunzip and gzip -d should be the same thing. gunzip normally is just a symlink to gzip, and gzip invokes -d when it detects that it has been called as gunzip.

So it's not a zip file. What does "file <filename>" tell you?

If "the browser in gnome" (whatever that is, do you mean galeon? Are you using nautilus as a web browser?) tries to save it as html, odds are that you're getting some error page, like "Connection timed out" instead. That's happened to me several times. Or perhaps it's a redirection page and you're trying to "right-click->save as", which won't work in any OS?!

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Mandrake 9.0 was ok, but updating the system is not easy either, and no current KDE, or wine config/setup tool either

SuSE is using the debian config tool for wine, as far as I know. It should be available for red hat and mandrake too.

Ya, I know. It wouldn't do anything, so I never got to the .tar stage. It was a .tgz so either gunzip or tar xvzf should've worked. As I state in another post, rebooting and then dl'ing the file again worked, for what reason... ? It's acting as it should. I have just never had quite this particular problem or behavior before and It was getting damn frustrating. Sometimes, I have to rant (ugly and silly as it may be)! :) Cheers, Curtis. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+fVCq7WVLiDrqeksRAicnAJ9SJQCv19ZXBk9c+jEaMWo71F335ACeKNVO 6NxpDpGt837RYQB/oxkvaU8= =Tmdv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 23 March 2003 00:25 am, Anders Johansson wrote:

On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 07:13, Curtis Rey wrote:

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Ya

Is anyone else reminded of Leo Mckern as professor Moriarty (Ya, Ya!)?

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, I know. It wouldn't do anything, so I never got to the .tar stage. It was a .tgz so either gunzip or tar xvzf should've worked. As I state in another post, rebooting and then dl'ing the file again worked, for what reason... ?

I gave you a possibly reason. If you left-click to download, and there's a temporary failure, you get an error page on your screen, saying something like "connection timed out", or "Sorry, there are too many users in your class right now". If instead you "right-click->save as", you get that error page saved. I suspect that's why the prowser tried to append .html to the file name.

I'd also be willing to bet an enormous amount of money that the reboot had nothing to do with it. It was just a question of downloading it again from an erratic ftp server. A very common problem on the internet.

"Yes" (no more McKern jokes for you :p), your probably right. I did do a right click save as for the file. Hmm, have to pay closer attention, perhaps I'm getting tired (been hacking away for a couple of days now). Cheers, Curtis. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+fVVt7WVLiDrqeksRAuS8AKC+6RE8/BxM0ReNmiJuVieC3ZuEiACg4U19 NXlP7AUcobrA5HDBa+lW9B0= =zA1W -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----