On 2014-06-18 17:43 (GMT+0200) C composed:
Because all those things Istvan listed were included parts of what made people like KDE3 better, parts lost in KDE4 because the KDE wizards decided they needed to start all over from scratch instead of fixing things that caused trouble fixing things.
Because you can't explicitly set the font size on the default clock widget? So what.
Again, because that's the way it was before many years of work was discarded, and I liked being able to select the perfect size. Someone must have thought long before KDE4 start over from scratch was conceived that it was a useful feature.
Not everyone wants or needs to set the font size. I hated that about KDE3.
No one forced you to not accept the default size.
You can use a different widget... if an existing one doesn't suit what you need... make a new widget that does allow you to set the font. You are not stuck with the default widgets.
I don't know about creating widgets, and shouldn't have to. It was fine before the start from scratch and ignore features useful to KDE3 users.
Other panel issues? Change the panel. The default panel is not the only panel.
The default in KDE3 was OK, and easy to tailor the little bit I wanted to, putting the panel hiding button on the right end.
Don't like the KDE Kickoff Menu?
Worse than don't like, but turning on old trusty is easy enough.
Other than the cashew thingy (and even that can be hidden), almost everything (that was listed) can be changed by simply using a different desktop widget, or making your own if none suit your needs.
I shouldn't have to learn to build a widget in order to get the exact same pixel height for the panel for every login under this roof. A number typed is easy to replicate, the exact opposite of a mouse drag.
The KDE4 bug reports that a few people post here usually affect incredibly old versions of KDE4, and are such incredibly minuscule corner cases that 6 people on the planet are affected.
You call them corner cases. I find those problems to be easily repeatable with virgin users. 6 people commenting in a bug doesn't mean anything. Far less than every user of KDE is familiar with bug reporting systems and makes use of them. Huge numbers encounter disliked behavior and just live with it, hoping it goes away at update time. Why do you think people are always clamoring for each new version the minute upstream announces it? They hope more annoyances have been removed than new ones introduced.
If those "bugs" are so incredibly important for you, fix them
"Fix them" is BS. Only a tiny proportion of users are programmers. It was fine before the start from scratch and ignore features useful to KDE3 users.
or use a DE that is more suitable for your needs.
AFAIK, the only DEs better than KDE4 are KDE3 and TDE.
I, and a LOT of others like where KDE4 has gone. I like how it works.
Because not everything KDE3 had was discarded in creating KDE4. Those content or even overjoyed with KDE4 as is are those who weren't using the discards.
I do wonder why Ilya is sticking with KDE3
It has to be an incredible amount of work to make that creaky old unmaintained code continue to work as the rest of the planet moves on. His (and others) work is used and appreciated by people who prefer KDE3.
No kidding. :-p
That's great, and it fits an ever shrinking niche of Linux. Maybe those efforts might be better focused to TDE? Who knows... that's up to Ilya to decide when he's had enough :-P
You totally miss the point by short-quoting, leaving out "instead of what I would think to be less work in the form of the TDE project". TDE has multiple people adapting the "creaky old code" to the foundational changes in the base operating system, plus making tiny changes now and then to TDE itself as made prudent on account of the foundational changes. AFAIK, there is only Ilya for KDE3, and that only for openSUSE users. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org