Hello, I am running SuSE Tumbleweed on a desktop and on an older laptop (for test purposes). On both machines after the last zypper ref/dup/up cycle the complete XFCE desktop was changed, many of the settings were lost and the way how one can change e.g. the desktop background was changed in a way that it is more inconvenient. I do know that XFCE per se did not change, because on another Laptop with Ubuntu 18.04 the XFCE desktop and settings were the same after the last updates. So as an example: the conventient way to set XFCE background on Ubuntu was and is like shown in ConvenientDesktopSet.jpg The new way from SuSE Tumbleweed (last zypper ref/dup/up cycle yesterday, uname says "...5.2.10-1-default #1 SMP Sun Aug 25 17:33:34 UTC 2019..." ) is seen in warumallesandersSuSETumble_1.jpg warumallesandersSuSETumble_2.jpg : now you need 2 sub-windows for e.g. setting the background colors and you cannot set colors with decimal numbers for RGB or HSV, you have to do it in hex. :-/ I was moving to XFCE since KDE changed the way of virtual workspaces in an unusable manner, and now someone is starting to mess up XFCE. <rant on> Where did the message of "never change a runnning machine" go? <rant off> :-( And if it needs a change: Why not putting the "predefined color section" into the color selection window of ConvenientDesktopSet.jpg ? BR