This is getting sooooooooo boring :o{
can we move on..............
Keith Gibbons, Ireland
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philipp Thomas"
Hi Fábio,
Fábio Rabelo
[ Thu, 01 Aug 2002 09:36:47 -0300]: Things like "run level editor" was exatly what I'm "running away from" when I migrate to Suse since version 6.1, it is what I call "steps back" .
No, it's definitely a step forward! After we introduced LSB conforming init scripts and the necessary tools which LSB calls for, it was the next logical step to remove the START_xxxx variables and to depend solely one runlevel links.
And the move away from rc.config didn't happen overnight, simply because a monolithic rc.config gets very hard to handle. So the first move was splitting off parts to /etc/rc.config.d (somewhere 7.2 or 7.3) and then /etc/rc.config.d more or less moved to /etc/sysconfig.
I've been using Suse just because it can do this job in a "simple and practic" way, if Suse no longer can do it in the same way, I'll migrate to another one !
Using the runlevel editor in YaST2 or editing the appropriate init script and then calling insserv *is* both simple *and* practical! It's just not the same way it was before.
But if you don't like it, nobody's holding you. So use another distribution.
I, in my name and in name of all of my clients, have the rights to scream!!
Scream as much as you want, but don't expect others to chime in.
"Suse can be reaching a lot of new clients with 8.0, but can be loosing a lot of old clients too ! Suse can afford it ???"
Hmm, latest sales figures indicate that 8.0 is doing very well indeed and has the potential to become SuSE's best selling distribution yet. So it seems we don't loose that much but rather gain.
I don't "WANT TO" use another distro, it depends of what Suse will do with 8.1 !
Well, more changes and IMHO quite a few goodies. But rc.config will not come back and the runlevel editor is here to stay.
and one last question : If 8.0 is "so good" why the last upgrades of corporate products fo Suse ( Email Server, Enterprise Server, Connectivity Server ) is based on 7.3 and NOT in 8.0 ???
Because we've guaranteed our customers at least two years of maintenance. Business users go for stability and 'never touch a running system'. That's why the business products are based on SLES7, which again is AFAIK 7.2 based.
BTW, SuSE Linux 8.1 will be the base of our SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 8 (powered by United Linux :).
Philipp
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