On Monday, June 11, 2012 12:42 PM Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
I apologize for this off topic question but this list has high traffic, and many of its members have decent knowledge regarding hardware technical things.
I would like to buy a new AMD processor for my Gigabyte (GA-870-UD3) motherboard with AM3 socket. I have selected 3 processors but I don't know which one to choose from these three:
1. AMD Phenom II X6 1045T - HDT45TWFK6DGR (HDT45TWFGRBOX http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Phenom%20II%20X6%201045T%20-%20HDT45T WFK6DGR.html
2. AMD Phenom II X4 960T Black Edition - HD96ZTWFK4DGR (HD96ZTWFGRBOX http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Phenom%20II%20X4%20960T%20Black%20Edi tion%20-%20HD96ZTWFK4DGR.html
3. AMD Phenom II X4 910e - HD910EOCK4DGM (HD910EOCGMBOX) http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Phenom%20II%20X4%20910e%20-%20HD910EO CK4DGM%20(HD910EOCGMBOX).html
I selected these based on price and availability. The prices of these are very close, the difference is less than 20 US$. I don't want to overlock it, I only selected the Black Edition since it is available.
My questions:
1. Regarding power consumption: cpu-world site says the following for 1945T: "On socket AM2+/AM3 platforms in the minimum performance state the processor runs at 800 MHz core voltage and has TDP 47.1 Watt" I could not find similar statements for the other two processors. What can be this value in case of tthose? Less than this or similar? My desktop computer is turned on all day (from morning to evening, not overnight) but used only periodically, tehrefore the minimum-power consumption is important.
2. The cpu-world site says regarding the FS bus the following: 1045T and 910e: 667 MHz Memory controller "One 2000 MHz 16-bit HyperTransport link"
960T: 2000 MHz (HyperTransport link)
Are these two the same thing expressed by different terms, or is there really difference between them? In the latter case how does it affect performance?
All in all I don't know which one to choose that is energy efficient but still powerful. I don't want to replace it within a few years. The computer would run openSUSE (12.2 probably) and has no specific requirements. Any suggestion or opinion is appreciated.
Thanks, Istvan
The 910e Deneb does draw less than the Thubans at minimum idle; note the .15v vcore differential. The "e" was of course intended for silent/low-power applications, and IIRC from reports it's draw is ~30w less at idle as long as using an AM3 socket (AM2+ requires more). Is it worth it? Depends on where you are, and for how long. And of course running cooler will in turn require less power for both cpu and system cooling (depending on your setup). Note however you could run into a limitation with this chip if you have to upgrade later, e.g., a new mobo/chipset. The 960T is just a slightly faster 1045T with only 4 cores unlocked; both are Thubans. The 1045T will pull a little more for the extra 2 cores, but at idle the difference is negligible. On the other hand, the 960T pulls just a bit more for its higher clock. You can essentially turn the 960T into a 1045T (unlock cores, under-volt) or the 1045T into a 960T (disable cores 5/6 and over-clock); power draw will be effectively the same. The HyperTransports and the Memory Controller are all the same. However, with a good mobo the Thuban controller can be run at 800MHz and IIRC it is more stable, too. Unless the 910e provides substantial savings or you are building an inexpensive silent machine, and seeing that you aren't interested in Blackie features, then the 1045T might be the best choice. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org