Am Fri, 10. February 2006 18:47 schrieb David Wright:
Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2006 17:47 schrieb houghi:
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 02:25:59PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
1) Why doen't we have a language marker for the default? That would make things more consistent, and if somebody sees a list full of DE, CN, FR mailing lists and starts searching for EN they are going to be out of luck - although most people probably aren't that dumb. Also stops any question of English elitism, unless you are proposing the default groups are in German, or Flemish (hi houghi ;-P).
Yes, make a EN as well. Oh and Flemish is not a language, it is a group of dialects. If we get Flemish, we should get also Plat-Duutsch, Beirisch and Östereichish. (The last two are the same, but don't tell them that, because the inhabitants think they are not, because they are better then the other. :)
I'm English, living in Bayern and have visited Östereich and they are definitely not the same :-D Mind you I get lost when the locals talk to me here, I can speak German, but Bayerisch gets me totally lost most of the time :-P
I will not comment or even rate the right to exist for (sub)laguage lists. This is a minefield which may become as big as religion or politics. So therefore I also tried to give this posting a more humorous note ;-)) So, from a technical point of view. - setting up a mailing list is done in seconds - administrating a low-low traffic list (even for a language which might be spoken only by 2 people on the world) will be no work (under the aspect of human recources) - Even the little bit of more reccources needed due to more postings of the same toppic / field in different languages will not be an argument against (sub)language lists From a practical point of view - if there is a new list, lets say in Klingon, which is frequently used by only a very few people (Klingons may be) and has therefore only very few postings will most likely not attract more users to participate. So there is a big chance that such a list will dissapear over a longer period of time. This because of the natural mortality rate (mortality under the aspect of people seem to be dead if not posting) is lower than the fertility rate (under the aspect of fertility rate seen as new posters are like a new born member of the opensuse community). - But not setting up a (sub)language list which is asked for (may be from a certain number uf users, to have some kind of barrier not having the need for setting up a list for every person of the world) may be a lost opportunity. Because if _just_this_ new list will attract a lot of people it is definetly a win for opensuse. and it would be sad if we hadn't done this. Or, comming back to my example above, we would have missed to win the klingon empire to join the opensuse universe and participate spreading our Prime Directive (which is Free Software and opensuse for the collective good). Not talking of the benefit to win some klingons as brothers in arms. - Even if it has no practical use for the opensuse project itself it has a social use in the meaning of beeing an encouragement offered by opensuse to give people of a certain language the chance to socialise and thereby it helps keeping their culture which mostoften is based in their language alive. So speaking of klingon again we might be able to give a helping hand to keep the klingon empire and it's culture alive. regards, Thomas