On 13/11/09 16:12, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On 11/12/2009 11:57 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 13/11/09 15:03, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Fred Miller
[11-12-09 21:43]: Then, why don't we have a nvidia site to upgrade drivers?
You do have, Fred. Just not the type/format that you had. It has been called the *hard* way, but is only a download and a commandline execution of a script which requires several yes or no answers to questions. Really difficult.
Maybe a better answer, nvidia is not part of openSUSE, but a convenience that (iiuc) Novell provided in collusion with nVidia.
I have a feeling that Fred is looking for something which can be automatically done on each of the computers he works on.
For me, with just the 2-3 computers to look after, downloading a copy of the nVidia driver from the nVidia site is not a problem, but to Fred I suspect doing so, in order to be able to install and compile the driver on (?)>3 computers, would be a pain.
You have NO idea what it is to work on systems and meet deadlines. But, that's not my concern. My concern is that openSUSE CAN'T be THE Linux disto....THE "easiest to install, setup, and use" for those who we NEED - read that MUST - have use it....present MickySoft users, when there are impediments to getting drivers installed. MANY have made the point before, and I will again. If Ubuntu 9.1 and other distros. make it easy, so can openSUSE.
Fred
Fred, I am as passionate about oS as you are, and have been so since I first came across it back when it was still the good, old, solid *German* ("But *don't* mention the War!" - Basil Fawlty) product called SuSE. And I've said many a word about its downs and up over the years. However, what you stated above is too emotional. There is nothing *forcing* you to give your client openSUSE. *You* want them to use oS, and I don't blame you - I would too. But you may just as well put Kubuntu/Ubuntu on their systems in stead of the "MickeyMouse" stuff which they have been mesmerised into using for the past many years. (I installed XP on the system the other day on the new HDs for one reason only: I made a *big* mistake in buying a good 35mm slide-capable CANON scanner - for a *very* good price - a little while back, but it is not supported under Linux; I need the scanner, hence the installation of XP. If not for this there would be not be single trace of that MS crap on this computer.) openSUSE, and other distros, no doubt are having hassles. But take yourself back some years and compare 'the now' with 'the then'. Have things got better, or worse? What I think is the real problem here is that we, as enthusiastic supporters of oS, and Linux, are expecting great things from people who code the oS - but for one reason or another, they cannot deliver to meet our expectations. I have a tagline which states, "The first myth of management is that it exists" :-) . BC -- I work to live not live to work. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org