On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 16:19 +0100, Bjorn Tore Sund wrote:
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Ken Schneider wrote:
On Wed, 2005-11-09 at 09:57 -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
It's quite obvious why this should be.
KDE will remain the default desktop for all products -EXCEPT- SLES and NLD.
http://www.opensound.com/ doesn't help me to find archives for the OSS list, nor does Google. Were you talking a different OSS?
The opensuse list. lists.opensuse.org
Doh. Thanks. Why is that TLA so popular? Unfortunately I've been unable to find out what Christoph Thiel's position within SuSE is, though his blog tells me he is 20 and writes web pages. And I'm not panicking, but that particular news report is causing me a lot of extra work. My employer is due to decide on a standard linux desktop platform tomorrow. We have conluded that KDE is by far the desktop system that suits us best. Based on the quality of the SuSE KDE configuration, we then chose OpenSuSE for our desktop distro (enterprise editions are too limited). This led to the recommendation that we purchase an 800 machines ZenWorks Linux management license, scheduled to grow to 1500 within two years and to include our 1000 Macintosh when ZenWorks is expanded to support Mac next autumn. That decision was also going to be made tomorrow. If we were really happy with ZenWorks on the Linux and Macintosh platforms, we'd probably have expanded our Zenworks license to also include management of our 5000 Windows machines at some point in the near future. Yes, there are other factors involved but that chain of decisions with KDE -> SuSE -> Zenworks is a base. Though no decisions had been made, a SLES standardisation on our 50-60 linux servers was likely based on the other set of choices. If I don't get a guarantee from SuSE/Novell (yes, I'm using other channels as well) that the SuSE KDE modifications and configurations will stay maintained at at least the same level as today, we're most likely dropping OpenSuSE and consequently SLES and ZenWorks. We have our final meeting tomorrow morning, we _might_ decide to just postpone our decision if I it seems likely that the guarantee is just a bit late. But sometime next week the analysis process will be restarted and RedHat/Fedora is a likely winner because of commercial software support - and then other alternatives for client management open up as well and will be looked closer at. Panicking? No. Frustrated? Yes. We don't have a problem, but would much rather this nonsense hadn't started to appear. But Novell is doing their best to loose business, and though we're only one small university I can't imagine that we're the only ones taking a step back to consider alternatives. SuSE's big advantage has been that they're _different_, the more like RedHat they try to be the less reason is there to choose SuSE over RedHat. -BT -- Bjørn Tore Sund Phone: (+47) 555-84894 Stupidity is like a System administrator Fax: (+47) 555-89672 fractal; universal and Math. Department Mobile: (+47) 918 68075 infinitely repetitive. University of Bergen VIP: 81724 Support: system@mi.uib.no Contact: teknisk@mi.uib.no Direct: bjornts@mi.uib.no