On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 00:51 -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
On Sunday 13 November 2005 11:59 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
Client/Server has absolutely nothing to do with any of this. That design concept was around before Microsoft and has nothing to do with desktops or anything else in this discussion.
I disagree. The traditional concept of client/server was desktop client/{file,database} server.
I really have no idea where you got that notion. client/server has always been a concept of communication between programs and division of duties/encapsulation, and never ever about desktop computing.
Certainly there were a few others talking about client/server in the sense that Microsoft used the idea, but that was not the typical meaning intended by use of the term.
A file server is a client/server design, and was used in the Novell servers Microsoft competed with
That is exactly what Microsoft decoupled. A file server became a file service.
I don't understand where you draw the distinction. Please note that a server, technically, is not a machine, it is a process running on a machine. Some people call it a service, some call it a daemon, whatever. It's been around since the mainframe. More or less the only thing that has changed since then is how the client and server processes communicate The only, and I mean only, thing Microsoft "invented" in this respect was putting a desktop GUI on a machine running server processes, and I'm not altogether certain that was a laudable thing
And there are quite a few secretaries using linux on the desktop. In a managed environment, users don't see the configuration issues
Quite a few? I known some smart cookies working as receptionists or secrataries. They aren't all air-heads.
Keep your prejudices to yourself, I never said or insinuated that they were. The jobs, however, do not require them to have a high degree of experience in IT matters, that does not make one an airhead (to be honest, I sometimes get the feeling the opposite is true)
Nonetheless, I suspect the percentage of secrataries or other admin personnel using Linux as their primary workstation is very low.
Of course, but your windows FUD is wrong nevertheless. It has been shown to be usable by non-technical personell. Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but usable to the point of indifference by people using it only as an office tool managed by others