* Basil Chupin
[11-24-13 23:05]: [...] 1. are we supposed to be using the network manager or ifup? and ! I have never gotten network manager to work. I have ifup/ifdown/ifconfig on four boxes, three are Tumbleweed and two of those are wireless. Thanks Patrick and your answer only reinforces what someone is already
On 25/11/13 17:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote: trying to say in another thread here or another oS list: openSUSE's advice to users is getting out of hand, is deficient, and is not useful to people. Contrary to what you just stated above, the only way I finally got this laptop to connect using wifi is to activate the Network Manager - and configure it (using the 'trial and error' approach and some intuition based on past experience). I am posting this message thru the wifi connection and not the ifup which I thought was the one to use - just like you. 2. is the firewall supposed to be on or off?
All my boxes have firewall on.
I activated the firewall, after deactivating it earlier based on what I remembered - rightly or wrongly - from the default setup on 12.3.
In 12.3 neither were used as far as I know - ie, there was no network manager and the firewall was off by default. But in 13.1 both are active if I remember what I saw last night (I haven't been back at the laptop since last night - I'm getting sick of the damn thing! :-( ) as root, what does "ifconfig" give you.
I dare not look. I happy enough at the moment to be able to type this on the laptop and have it send this via wifi so I am not about to tempt fate :-) . Suffice it for me to say that I got the wifi working. BTW, I know that there are typos in this message and I ask for forgiveness for them because the keyboard on the laptop is not the same as the keyboard i am used to on the desktop and i am therefore hitting keys which are not only in the wrong pa=ce but also have a different touch. Not to mention that I have yet to find how to turn off the touchpad so that my hand or cuff ot my jacket doesn't make the damn cursor jump to another location :-(. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1 on a Lenovo laptop without any idea of what is what. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org