Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2006 13:43 schrieb Henne Vogelsang:
Hi,
we talked in the last meeting about the language lists. This requires a new layout (or rather _a_ layout because today we dont have guidelines about it) of the lists. We thought about it and came up with the following:
We need to distinguish between 3 different variables in the mailinglists names:
1. project 2. topic 3. language
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This would for instance mean for the openSUSE project:
opensuse@opensuse.org - General in english opensuse-de@opensuse.org - Generl in german opensuse-announce@opensuse.org - Announce in english opensuse-announce@opensuse.org - Announce in german
^^ I think that should be opensuse-announce-de@opensuse.org?
opensuse-users@opensuse.org - Support in english opensuse-users-de@opensuse.org - Support in german opensuse-factory@opensuse.org - Factory in english opensuse-factory-de@opensuse.org - Factory in german
This layout scales pretty good. We need the <project> prefix because in the long run we are going to migrate everything that is on lists.suse.com to lists.opensuse.org. And we have other projects there, for instance taskjuggler or packet-writing.
Sounds like a good idea then.
Mailinglists will get setup on request. Im not going to setup mailinglists with one or less subscribers. I need to think of an request mechanism but it will probably be a mail address.
Also makes sense, but be sure to have the information on the wiki that additional language lists can be set up.
There is no hard requirement for a default language list but its very desirable. So for instance there shouldnt be a
opensuse-foo-de@opensuse.org
without a list
opensuse-foo@opensuse.org
But it might be that we cant avoid that in all cases.
Comments?
Henne
Seems fine, only things I thought about were: 1) Why doen't we have a language marker for the default? That would make things more consistent, and if somebody sees a list full of DE, CN, FR mailing lists and starts searching for EN they are going to be out of luck - although most people probably aren't that dumb. Also stops any question of English elitism, unless you are proposing the default groups are in German, or Flemish (hi houghi ;-P). 2) This would also allow for <language>-<project>-<topic>@domain.tld, this way all the groups for a language could be grouped together when listed. This would, IMHO make a little more sense, somebody who is subscribing to French groups can quickly see by the prefix what language they are, not have to search for every project/topic and then find the French version thereof... This would also keep it semi-consistent with usenet naming, where language/country specific groups are listed with that languages/country's prefix (E.g. es.comp.misc, es.comp.programas etc.). 2a) Having the language as a prefix should make the list more readable, having a 2 digit code, followed by a project, followed by a topic means only the domain name part looks ragedy, the begginning of the rest of the items is nicely formatted: de.opensuse@opensuse.org de.opensuse.annouce@opensuse.org de.opensuse.factory@opensuse.org de.opensuse.users@opensuse.org de.taskjuggler@opensuse.org de.taskjuggler.announce@opensuse.org de.taskjuggler.users@opensuse.org en.opensuse@opensuse.org en.opensuse.announce@opensuse.org en.opensuse.factory@opensuse.org en.opensuse.users@opensuse.org en.taskjuggler@opensuse.org ... To me that is easier on the eye and much quicker to pick up the relevant language. This all depends of course on how the lists will be grouped... If they are listed under language, then by project and topic under the language heading, the second suggestion is irrelevant; but if they are going to be listed by project, by topic by language, I'd go for making the language more prominent and having it at the start. Just my 2c. Dave