::8.1 is not available to me yet, but I've read a few posts about problems ::with java and the new gcc 3.2 based SuSE. Yes, the java plugins for Mozilla/Netscape 6/7 do not work with the GCC 3.2 compiled version in SuSE 8.1, Mandrake 9.0 or Redhat 8.0. I do not believe that these distribution compile their own java pkgs. It's a Sun thing. Until Sun uses GCC 3.2 it can't be helped. ::My understanding is that the java mozilla plug-in does not work since ::mozilla was compiled with gcc 3.2. Does anyone know if this will be ::resolved soon? It's a Sun thing. ::Second, can someone who has 8.1 installed tell me if regular JVMs work ::the same as in 8.0. Do you get IBM and Sun JVMs on the CD and do they ::work under 8.1. This is a big deal to me because I have a few java apps ::that are critical. I can't upgrade unless the JVM works. The fix is to use the Mozilla release from mozilla.org which is compiled with GCC 2.95.x. The drawback to this is that Galeon and some other programs that use the Mozilla rendering engine will not work if you use this version. If you just use Mozilla and don't use Galeon ..etc. Then it works fine. It's what I did. I'm still not sure why Konqueror uses the older compiled JAVA since it's been compiled with GCC 3.2 as well. No one has explained that. I would expect Sun to put out a new JAVA package that works with GCC 3.2 compiled software in the near future or they will recieve a rash of complaints from users all over the world. So for now if your not using programs such as Galeon. Just download Mozilla 1.X from Mozilla.org and things will work as they have in the past. Cheers! -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.