At 20:23:30 on Monday Monday 09 February 2009, "Carlos E. R."
On Saturday, 2009-02-07 at 17:37 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
(I forgot to send this email)
entry for gvfs is:
I am assuming that it is corrupt. What can I do to fix this?
Good question ;-)
See this thread: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-02/msg00624.html
Here: drwx------ 2 rm users 4096 2008-11-23 20:18 .gvfs/
The symptom in that thread is identical to what I see. Two entries down in the thread is a response from Carlos (who seems not to have a screwed-up entry), who gives the content of the relevant line in his <mount> result, and who opines that the OP would see a different line. I think that is not so, because here the line is:
gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/stan/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,node,user=stan)
Which is very much like what Carlos has.
I do not think the problem (whatever it is) is important here, as I am using KDE4 rather than Gnome. It is an annoyance, because it bothers e.g. the <find> command, so presumably the easiest way out is to unmount it if possible. The thread discusses how to do that.
I don't think you should umount it like that. I think that if you are using any (or some) gnome app then it appears, and should dissapear automatically later. Umounting it while the app that needs it is still running could have unexpected (unknown) results.
Again, I don't think I need it. I haven't used any Gnome programs, even Evolution which openSuSE seems to be pushing. On the other hand, I am becoming so discouraged with v11.1 that I am seriously considering dumping it and returning to 10.3. I haven't used any Gnome programs during the past year since I installed openSuSE, and I don't see that this will change. Besides the gvfs matter, the audio system doesn't work at all (except that it leaps into action for the audible herald when the OS starts up and again when it shuts down. The clock is screwed up in such a way that doesn't seem likely to be the result of a clumsiness of my own. The Video system has worked on one (1) website, not on any other. Importing the Kaddressbook data was a disaster (export from 10.3 as vCard, import to 11.1 as vCard sees mostly email addresses, with the rest of the data only in the individual panel at the right side). Google Earth, which is now able to "start", but was still working on painting the globe on the Welcome page twenty minutes after I started the program. That last gem seems to be the result of lack of available memory, but I don't see anything that is eating up memory. This is a Pentium4 x86_64 with 2GB of RAM, with 500MB of swapspace. Not enough, apparently. The culprit cannot be VirtualBox, because it isn't running. And many of the changes from 10.3 seem to me to be mainly for the purpose of making changes, even at the price of user convenience. And of course trying to outdo MS in glitziness. At the moment, I don't know what I want to do.
The "???" entry is weird, and must be some kind of leftover from a previous use that crashed or something.
How could that be, if there are no Gnome programs on the machine? According to what I have read, it is a utility for Gnome. I think it is best regarded as just another bug, especially since it happens to be quite ubiquitous.
The problem is that we users do not know what that thing really is and how we should handle its problems. The proper thing would be to bugzilla it. There are some entries related to it, I wrote one at least.
Yes, it is some anoyance that some tools, like find, lsof, etc, even while running as root, report they can not access that directory.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
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