-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jan Tiggy wrote:
Anders Johansson schrieb:
No it didn't. YaST was based on libzypp in 10.1 too Sure it used libzypp too, but not only. And Yes I got here still 10.1 running and that w/o libzypp installed. The Yast's packet management works!!
Hardly. YaST2's package management uses zypp. Period. On 10.2 there are two options to use zypp: 1) either through ZMD (the "ZMD backend") then back to zypp and then to RPM 2) or directly to RPM (the "opensuse backend") The option with the least issues is definitely the latter.
Yes, YaST uses libzypp as package management backend now. Do you have problems with libzypp? Do you notice things that don't work? So far I haven't seen many bugreports about libzypp not working.
Yes I have problems with libzyyp. I don't like things forced on me w/o giving me any alternatives!!
You have lots of alternatives: - - yast->zypp->ZMD (eww) + rug - - yast->zypp (better) + zypper (work in progress) - - smart - - yum - - apt (RPM port) (not biarch capable)
And please don't try to make silly jokes about this, because rug/zmd don't use libzypp for their updates.
...anymore! However it did use libzypp in 10.1. Now when couple of users got pissed off by the brain dead 'Ximians', Novel replaced rug with zypper.
No. Many, many people in the community (including me) have bugged the SUSE engineers again and again to have ZMD removed. In 10.3 the default yast2 package management will be zypp without ZMD instead of zypp with ZMD, at last. ZMD was pushed in by management decision, not by technical superiority.
Well but that's not the point. I don't like libzypp and I don't trust Novell. Believe me or not, all my friends share this Point of View.
Gosh, is it paranoid time again.. ? If you don't like zypp, then just don't use it (except for the installation, where you have to) and stick with smart (or yum or apt or whatever).
As by now we still stick to SUSE just out of sentiment to the old times when SUSE was ours (German). Those days we knew what to expect from
The engineers working on the distribution are still sitting in Nürnberg.
SUSE-Devs but now not anymore. I will wait for the 10.3 release and then decide whether I switch to another Distro or stick to 'Novell's SUSE' bit longer. Nevertheless, I respect your poit of view, but please respect mine too. I don't want libzypp and it is my right not to.
Sure, but why all that noise and not just use smart (or ...).
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