On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 14:49, Insomniac
IMO, 7.3 and 9.3 were the best versions SuSE has ever put out. KDE screwed up going to KDE4 and all the moronic eye candy garbage and not-intuitive-anymore ways of getting to anything done and taking a *LOT* of control away from the user
If you don't like it, you can EASILY install KDE3 (or Gnome2, or e16, or Fluxbox, or, or, or...). KDE3 is still there and being regularly maintained by a team here, and they are doing a great job at keeping KDE3 alive for those who prefer it (thanks guys, your work is much appreciated by those who favor KDE3). The reality is... life moves on. You can either stay stuck in the past (and Linux allows you to easily do this something you cannot do with Windows by the way - for example, try installing Windows 3.11 and then try to install the latest Firefox vs installing KDE3 in openSUSE 11.4) or you can use the new tools and features that are being developed. By the way, KDE4 has LOADS of user config - much more than KDE3 ever had (if you could be bothered to look at KDE4.7), and the KDE4 "eye-candy", can easily be toggled on and off... in fact, it will even auto-toggle the eye-candy off on start-up if you're running on a low spec machine and it detects that it is slow or cannot do the effects.
or mailing lists and you hear the excuses M$ users used 10 years ago for it not running well on their systems - ie: not enough RAM, reboot to fix it, the 'oh you need the sooper-dooper-most-up-to-date-version of that to work' excuse, ad nausea.
You HAVE A CHOICE. You do not need to run KDE4. It's not the only way. No one forces you to use it. If you have a low spec machine, use something like LXDE. That's why it's there, and it's a fully supported option in openSUSE. Your complaint here is like saying "I want 1080p resolution Color Television on my 1975 Black and White TV! Why can't I get high def and 3D video on my B&W TV?" You want the new functionality and features, you have to use hardware that can handle it. That's not so hard to understand.
finding updated apps *IF* they're necessary for whatever odd reason. As I said, things seemed to just work, so hopefully you'll not need to worry about updating anything. Me, I'm also going to put 9.3 back on another partition and prove once-and-for-all that I should have stayed with it, or not.
Nothing fundamentally wrong with using 9.3. It was a solid release, but it's also horribly obsolete and thus full of old vulnerabilities that have been patched and fixed in updates that will not be applied to that release. You are going to have a hell of a time finding a way to install... Skype for example... or a modern browser. Firefox6 and Chrome12 are not going to be easy animals to install. For a desktop aimed at a beginner user who will want these tools and apps, it's a poor choice. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org