Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2016-12-14 14:39, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
That's right. The market is liberated, but that only matters when you want to place a call to a "normal" phone line.
And receive calls from ditto. It's important for anyone wanting to move in on the general telephony market. If you can't port regular numbers from the incumbent telco, it's a very difficult sell. "uh no, you can't call any POTS number".
Ah, yes, true. This moment I was only considering making calls to "geeks" likely minded. After all, the POTS company gives me free calls to the entire Spain, so VoIP would be an auxiliary phone for playing with.
But I do see your point, yes. To offer services on the market making and receiving calls to/from numbers is mandatory. Also important is to be able to place a call, say, to Canada to a POTS number and make the change to land line only in Canada, so that traject is a local phone call and dirt cheap. Ie, make the long traject on VoIp and the final branch on copper.
With a SIP-provider, that call is most likely dirt cheap anyway and you will be on IP all the way until the last mile. With sipcall.ch, Canada is 4.9Rp/minute. Same as a call to any country in Europe.
We have a few of those here - big and small. My home number is being ported to one of the smaller ones beginning of January, so all my private telephony will be VoIP only.
Interesting.
It's quite typical for smaller cable operators (we have a few of those too, local/regional) to run a telephone service, including porting of numbers from Swisscom. Especially now where analogue and ISDN services are being switched off.
We are using http://www.sipcall.ch/ - other companies offering VoIP services:
green.ch upc.ch iway.ch gga.ch netstream.ch
You have a few, I see.
The problem I see in Spain is that Internet is only offered by phone companies. It is impossible to get Internet without a phone line being included in the packet.
There is clearly some way to go in the liberation of the Spanish telecoms market. We have some 300 internet access providers :-) plus the big ones such as Swisscom, Sunrise and Cablecom/UPC. If you want to be an internet provider in Switzerland: a) get yourself an uplink provider. b) sign a contract with Swisscom for them to sell xDSL to you. c) configure your router. d) start selling. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (1.1°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org