On Mon April 13 2009 2:11:43 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Monday, 2009-04-13 at 12:31 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
etc), you will lose the Desktop Environment that currently works well for your needs, worse, as Sven indicated in a previous post in this thread, it will remove previous versions. So, 11.2 will damage existing installations if you aren't careful when you *upgrade*.
The problem is that assumption (that 11.2 will damage existing KDE3 installation) is pulled out of thin air. The installer can be designed to refuse to update (upgrade) system without explicit user permission.
I'm afraid that the current status is that 11.2 will have no kde3, and thus, when upgrading will simply upgrade kde3 to 4. The end result if the user had both (or only kde3), is that he will then have only kde4.
It would be a good idea to offer leave kde3 install and config files intact (not upgraded), while perhaps having an option (if possible) to copy over kde3 config to a new kde4 config when users start kde4 the first time.
I don't know if leaving kde3 intact is even possible, but it is the way to go if the user intends to keep kde3 updated via OBS; as it is now, I believe the route would be, first upgrade system, kde3 disappears, then add repo, install kde3 again. Not too bad if the user configuration does not disappears in the process.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
That is also my understanding of the situation. I also think your solution is valid...it doesn't ruin what you already have/use and it allows upgrading to 4.x+ if you are ready to do so. As an aside, but related, when I updated a customer from 3.5.9 to 3.5.10, some of the KDE3 apps were upgraded to KDE4 versions even though they had the same name. The biggest example was Konqueror which lost so many functions that I reinstalled the fersion in 3.5.9 and ignored the dependency errors encounterd because of other similar 'upgrades'. So far, no side-effects on that one reinstall, but I am sure there are other programs I left 'upgraded' because I didn't deem it worth the problems. My fear is that your proposed solution might 'upgrade' existing 3.5.9 versions to the hybridized versions of apps with the same name, eg, librariess or applets (or whatever they're called now) that still remain shared (under development) in KDE4.x. David Rankin found that using stuff from the OBS to upgrade his KDE3 apps caused an error because apparantly changes made by 4.x development are replacing versions in the 3.x OBS distro channel. Aside from that, I generally concur with your observations. -- Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org