On Thursday 22 July 2010 21:39:20 James Knott wrote:
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* James Knott<james.knott(a)rogers.com>
How does one change the KDE4 desktop background
to something that
You *really* cannot find it?
<right-click> on the desktop and choose "Desktop Settings"
If you really dis-like KDE(4) so much, why do you continue to use it and
to deride it. There are a lot of other desktops available. You might
even grow to like gnome, iirc you used to talk the same way about it.
Curious it wasn't under Personal Settings (Configure Desktop) as in KDE 3.
I have used KDE for many years and it's a real shame what's happened to
it. I've never cared for Gnome, as I found it was too "dumbed down" for
my tastes. It appears KDE is following suit.
Back when KDE 3 ruled the world, the peanut gallery told us that Personal
Settings (kcontrol) contained too many, badly organised settings, so for KDE 4
we moved some settings dialogs out of kcontrol and onto their actual workspace
elements, principle of locality.
In addition, Plasma Desktop allows you to have many elements (panels,
wallpapers, widgets) in arbitrary, nested structures which would be hard to
present to the user in a standalone config app in a way that they could
understand what they are configuring. Access to settings from the element
itself seemed more intuitive.
Consider as an alternative a settings module containing a treeview of desktop
elements, and a config pane for the currently selected element. The tree
would be something like this for a default desktop (this is roughly the tree
that plasma-desktop-appletsrc contains:
/Widget 1.10 (a system tray)
/Wallpaper (because everyone complained when wallpaper-per-desktop was
unavailable until recently)
You can't label those anonymous elements with widget names; most people
confuse System Tray with Task Manager half the time, myself included. What
you would end up doing to make this usable would be including a thumbnail of
the desktop and highlighting the currently selected element, which is back to
the locality principle.
The third option would be to play to 'I don't need more than one panel
containing a menu, a task manager, a pager, a system tray, a clock and a
lock/logout button and a wallpaper that changes per virtual desktop just like
in KDE 3 thank you very much' and provide a settings module that allows only
those elements to be configured. While that would undoubtedly be mana from
heaven to many KDE 4 critics, it is the "dumbed down" approach when compared
to local settings and a separate treeview.
I agree that moving configuration between versions is disruptive, but if you
assume good faith towards our users, can you see that we were trying to design
configuration that would accomodate the needs of basic users, power users and
innovative workspace designs?
Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team
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