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Doug McGarrett

29 Aug 2020 29 Aug '20

20:01

I found kfind on the internet, and downloaded it to my reinstalled Tumbleweed. However, I want it on the desktop, and it will only go to the panel, unlike in the past. There does not seem to be a way to change it. I suppose it must be in the directory itself, somewhere. I'd like to find the file in the terminal and find the problem and modify the text, but there seems to be another problem with this version of TW: it doesn't recognize the instruction locate. How can I get this important command back? (This version is 2020-0826) Thanx for your assistance--doug

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Patrick Shanahan

29 Aug 29 Aug

20:38

* Doug McGarrett [08-29-20 16:23]:

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I found kfind on the internet, and downloaded it to my reinstalled Tumbleweed. However, I want it on the desktop,

and it will only go to the panel, unlike in the past. There does not seem to be a way to change it. I suppose it must be in

the directory itself, somewhere. I'd like to find the file in the terminal and find the problem and modify the text, but there

seems to be another problem with this version of TW: it doesn't recognize the instruction locate. How can I

get this important command back? (This version is 2020-0826)

and you *are* using the one from the openSUSE Tumbleweed repo? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

21:01

* Patrick Shanahan [08-29-20 16:39]:

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* Doug McGarrett [08-29-20 16:23]:

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I found kfind on the internet, and downloaded it to my reinstalled Tumbleweed. However, I want it on the desktop,

and it will only go to the panel, unlike in the past. There does not seem to be a way to change it. I suppose it must be in

the directory itself, somewhere. I'd like to find the file in the terminal and find the problem and modify the text, but there

seems to be another problem with this version of TW: it doesn't recognize the instruction locate. How can I

get this important command back? (This version is 2020-0826)

and you *are* using the one from the openSUSE Tumbleweed repo?

using the openSUSE Tumbleweed repo, the command: rpm -ql kfind reveals /usr/share/applications/org.kde.kfind.desktop so the following command: cp /usr/share/applications/org.kde.kfind.desktop ~/Desktop should make it appear on your plasma5 desktop so far as Tw not recognizing "locate", do you even have it installed? what command line result did you receive when you tried "locate"? smthg like "cnf locate" ?? did you try: cnf locate which should have told you how to obtain "locate". -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

21:11

On 29/08/2020 22.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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I found kfind on the internet, and downloaded it to my reinstalled Tumbleweed. However, I want it on the desktop,

Why from Internet, when kfind is available in the official Tumbleweed repos?

...

and it will only go to the panel, unlike in the past. There does not seem to be a way to change it. I suppose it must be in

the directory itself, somewhere. I'd like to find the file in the terminal and find the problem and modify the text, but there

Why don't you remove that kfind from Internet, and install instead the official one?

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seems to be another problem with this version of TW: it doesn't recognize the instruction locate. How can I

get this important command back? (This version is 2020-0826)

By installing it, obviously. You try to use it, it should tell you "not found, try 'cnf locate'", and if you do, it will probably tell how to install it. Hint: it is an official package, with an extra letter. As I don't have tumbleweed, and I already have the package installed, I can not show you the output. Go ahead and do it. If you don't understand what it says, paste it here. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Doug McGarrett

23:09

On 8/29/20 5:11 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 29/08/2020 22.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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I found kfind on the internet, and downloaded it to my reinstalled Tumbleweed. However, I want it on the desktop,

Why from Internet, when kfind is available in the official Tumbleweed repos?

I don't know how to find or use Tumbleweed repos. Please clue me in. It would save me trouble, and maybe save my questions.

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and it will only go to the panel, unlike in the past. There does not seem to be a way to change it. I suppose it must be in

the directory itself, somewhere. I'd like to find the file in the terminal and find the problem and modify the text, but there

Why don't you remove that kfind from Internet, and install instead the official one?

...
seems to be another problem with this version of TW: it doesn't recognize the instruction locate. How can I

get this important command back? (This version is 2020-0826)

By installing it, obviously.

You try to use it, it should tell you "not found, try 'cnf locate'", and if you do, it will probably tell how to install it. Hint: it is an official package, with an extra letter.

As I don't have tumbleweed, and I already have the package installed, I can not show you the output.

Go ahead and do it. If you don't understand what it says, paste it here.

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

Ralph

23:49

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 19:09:39 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 8/29/20 5:11 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 29/08/2020 22.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Why from Internet, when kfind is available in the official Tumbleweed repos?

I don't know how to find or use Tumbleweed repos. Please clue me in. It would save me trouble, and maybe save my questions.

With all respect, if you do not know how to find/use a repo you are not ready for TW. TW is not really the right thing for beginners. Instead, install Leap 15.2. Then read the Start Up Guide and other available documentation and learn some basic openSUSE before jumping to TW. Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

23:54

* Ralph [08-29-20 19:50]:

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On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 19:09:39 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 8/29/20 5:11 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 29/08/2020 22.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Why from Internet, when kfind is available in the official Tumbleweed repos?

I don't know how to find or use Tumbleweed repos. Please clue me in. It would save me trouble, and maybe save my questions.

With all respect, if you do not know how to find/use a repo you are not ready for TW. TW is not really the right thing for beginners. Instead, install Leap 15.2. Then read the Start Up Guide and other available documentation and learn some basic openSUSE before jumping to TW.

we have beat that drum, but ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

Doug McGarrett

30 Aug 30 Aug

00:16

On 8/29/20 7:49 PM, Ralph wrote:

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On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 19:09:39 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 8/29/20 5:11 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 29/08/2020 22.01, Doug McGarrett wrote: Why from Internet, when kfind is available in the official Tumbleweed repos?

I don't know how to find or use Tumbleweed repos. Please clue me in. It would save me trouble, and maybe save my questions. With all respect, if you do not know how to find/use a repo you are not ready for TW. TW is not really the right thing for beginners. Instead, install Leap 15.2. Then read the Start Up Guide and other available documentation and learn some basic openSUSE before jumping to TW.

Ralph

I have been using TW for over a year. Hopefully there is some documentation for it; if so, where? If there is no start-up guide, then what is there? Can I get the Leap guide without installing it? I want a system that is continuously updated, and always current--that's why TW. And I'm not new to Linux--I used PCLOS for years until they castrated it. I had things working pretty well, but then I had to reinstall the system and some of the things that seemed to work pretty well in the 2019 version seem to be more difficult (or missing) in 2020. Example: I can't find how to stop the screen from going to full size when an app goes to the edge-- the command seems to be missing in the 2020-0826 version. Also, can't find out how to make this Thunderbird single-space. --doug --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

Ralph

00:28

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 20:16:29 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 8/29/20 7:49 PM, Ralph wrote:

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On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 19:09:39 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 8/29/20 5:11 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 29/08/2020 22.01, Doug McGarrett wrote: Why from Internet, when kfind is available in the official Tumbleweed repos?

I don't know how to find or use Tumbleweed repos. Please clue me in. It would save me trouble, and maybe save my questions. With all respect, if you do not know how to find/use a repo you are not ready for TW. TW is not really the right thing for beginners. Instead, install Leap 15.2. Then read the Start Up Guide and other available documentation and learn some basic openSUSE before jumping to TW.

Ralph

I have been using TW for over a year. Hopefully there is some documentation for it; if so, where?

If there is no start-up guide, then what is there? Can I get the Leap guide without installing it?

I want a system that is continuously updated, and always current--that's why TW.

And I'm not new to Linux--I used PCLOS for years until they castrated it.

I had things working pretty well, but then I had to reinstall the system and some of the things that seemed to work

pretty well in the 2019 version seem to be more difficult (or missing) in 2020. Example:

I can't find how to stop the screen from going to full size when an app goes to the edge--

the command seems to be missing in the 2020-0826 version. Also, can't find out how to make

this Thunderbird single-space.

I run Leap 15.1, not TW, but you can get all the current Leap (15.2) documentation at: https://doc.opensuse.org/ Can't help you with Thunderbird as I use Claws Mail. Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

Doug

20:51

On 08/29/2020 08:28 PM, Ralph wrote:

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On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 20:16:29 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 8/29/20 7:49 PM, Ralph wrote:

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On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 19:09:39 -0400

Replaced kfind with YAST version. Problem solved. /snip/

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I have been using TW for over a year. Hopefully there is some documentation for it; if so, where?

(See my comments below.)

I run Leap 15.1, not TW, but you can get all the current Leap (15.2) documentation at: https://doc.opensuse.org/

Can't help you with Thunderbird as I use Claws Mail.

Ralph

Thanx, Ralph. I found the stuff you mentioned, and it should be a big help. Also, I found on the boot-up screen there is an info box that I have been ignoring--who ever reads the directions?--and I opened it up and found a bunch of stuff, probably including some or all of what you have pointed me to. I looked at the file you recommended and printed out a lot of it. I'll put it all in a losse-leaf for constant reference. THANK YOU! --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

01:37

On 30/08/2020 01.09, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 8/29/20 5:11 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 29/08/2020 22.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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I found kfind on the internet, and downloaded it to my reinstalled Tumbleweed. However, I want it on the desktop,

Why from Internet, when kfind is available in the official Tumbleweed repos?

I don't know how to find or use Tumbleweed repos. Please clue me in. It would save me trouble, and maybe save my questions.

This is an absurd question, you are not a novice. You only have to start yast package manager and ask to install kfind and/or locate. You know where to find the books. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Doug McGarrett

18:56

On 8/29/20 7:09 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 8/29/20 5:11 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 29/08/2020 22.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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I found kfind on the internet, and downloaded it to my reinstalled Tumbleweed. However, I want it on the desktop,

Why from Internet, when kfind is available in the official Tumbleweed repos?

I don't know how to find or use Tumbleweed repos. Please clue me in. It would save me trouble, and maybe save my questions.

...
and it will only go to the panel, unlike in the past. There does not seem to be a way to change it. I suppose it must be in

the directory itself, somewhere. I'd like to find the file in the terminal and find the problem and modify the text, but there

The file is encoded and unreadable, but not needed now. See below.

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Why don't you remove that kfind from Internet, and install instead the official one?

Have done so. Resolved the problem. Thanx.

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seems to be another problem with this version of TW: it doesn't recognize the instruction locate. How can I

get this important command back? (This version is 2020-0826)

By installing it, obviously.

You try to use it, it should tell you "not found, try 'cnf locate'", and if you do, it will probably tell how to install it. Hint: it is an official package, with an extra letter.

Another source says cnf means command not found.

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As I don't have tumbleweed, and I already have the package installed, I can not show you the output.

Go ahead and do it. If you don't understand what it says, paste it here.

Thanx for the good advice--doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

19:32

On 30/08/2020 20.56, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 8/29/20 7:09 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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On 8/29/20 5:11 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 29/08/2020 22.01, Doug McGarrett wrote:

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Why don't you remove that kfind from Internet, and install instead the official one? Have done so. Resolved the problem. Thanx.

Good :-)

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seems to be another problem with this version of TW: it doesn't recognize the instruction locate. How can I

get this important command back? (This version is 2020-0826)

By installing it, obviously.

You try to use it, it should tell you "not found, try 'cnf locate'", and if you do, it will probably tell how to install it. Hint: it is an official package, with an extra letter. Another source says cnf means command not found.

That is so. Possibilities: 1) The package is already installed: cer@Telcontar:~> cnf jstar Program 'jstar' is present in package 'joe', which is installed on your system. Absolute path to 'jstar' is '/usr/bin/jstar'. Please check your $PATH variable to see whether it contains the mentioned path. cer@Telcontar:~> 2) The package is not installed, but it is known in at least one of the configured repos: cer@Telcontar:~> cnf balsa The program 'balsa' can be found in following packages: * balsa [ path: /usr/bin/balsa, repository: zypp (OBS_server_mail) ] * balsa [ path: /usr/bin/balsa, repository: zypp (download.opensuse.org-oss) ] * balsa [ path: /usr/bin/balsa, repository: zypp (download.opensuse.org-oss_1) ] Try installing with: sudo zypper install balsa cer@Telcontar:~> 3) A package or program of that name can not be found in any of the configured repos: cer@Telcontar:~> cnf fido fido: command not found cer@Telcontar:~> So, locate: cer@Telcontar:~> cnf locate Program 'locate' is present in package 'mlocate', which is installed on your system. Absolute path to 'locate' is '/usr/bin/locate'. Please check your $PATH variable to see whether it contains the mentioned path. cer@Telcontar:~> So just start yast package manager, search for "locate" and you will see "mlocate". Just click install it. Easy peasy. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Ralph

29 Aug 29 Aug

21:23

On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:01:33 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote:

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seems to be another problem with this version of TW: it doesn't recognize the instruction locate. How can I

get this important command back? (This version is 2020-0826)

I don't run TW but generally in openSUSE you can 'find' a 'missing' command using cnf (aka command-not-found), like: 'cnf locate' or 'command-not-found locate'. Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

Ianseeks

30 Aug 30 Aug

09:16

On Saturday, 29 August 2020 21:01:33 BST Doug McGarrett wrote:

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I found kfind on the internet, and downloaded it to my reinstalled Tumbleweed. However, I want it on the desktop,

and it will only go to the panel, unlike in the past. There does not seem to be a way to change it. I suppose it must be in

the directory itself, somewhere. I'd like to find the file in the terminal and find the problem and modify the text, but there

seems to be another problem with this version of TW: it doesn't recognize the instruction locate. How can I

get this important command back? (This version is 2020-0826)

Thanx for your assistance--doug

try Yast/software/software management and search for kfind. -- opensuse:tumbleweed:20200826 Qt: 5.15.0 KDE Frameworks: 5.73.0 - KDE Plasma: 5.19.4 - kwin 5.19.4 kmail2 5.15.0 (20.08.0) - akonadiserver 5.15.0 (20.08.0) - Kernel: 5.8.2-1-default - xf86-video-nouveau: 1.0.16 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org

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