[opensuse-project] Improving visibility between maintainers and end-users?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hello, This is my first post to this mailing list so I hope I won't interrupt or disrupt an ongoing conversation. I noticed there is no systematic monitoring of the "maintenance health" of openSUSE packages, i.e.. no way for a potentially interested future maintainer to check whether this or that package is in need of extra help, or whether everything is fine. This means that it's difficult for someone willing to volunteer to appreciate the "health" of packages as far as maintenance is concerned. Of course users can see commits timelines and failed builds, but they have to try and *infer* how wanted their help is when instead they could simply *read* this information. Also as far as I know there is no systematic monitoring of the number of users for a given package in home repositories. This means that maintainers might not always be aware that their package need to be registered against official repositories. Now a simple web service (implemented as new feature to software-o-o, for instance, but not necessarily) could bring closer end-users and maintainers, improving the visibility of packages that need more maintainers and providing direct feedback to maintainers so as to motivate them to port their packages onto the main openSUSE distributions. Do other people find that such a service would be useful? If people find the idea worth realizing, who should I get in touch with to make it happen? Best, Adrien -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEU4ol/0bSQTwqpAkNMy9Aieh+wJwFAl9GkWAACgkQMy9Aieh+ wJyLUggAkiyzuDsdY2T0QpqjwNuV1hO9R78kN+M57l4sPDxvDwzz34s4uQgnMjJt ZGU+OJWKpmvhgB5rvSXDOrsVkx6XoyW6iPlRBgBeb5qdU0nncmhlRTSiYEQgh1ix dGCkh8lpvn1WQzS3vbrALCjpYLwPNLgRZY7Eavg+3I7HRffFS0M3y5nNL7dHhg+Q 25vcrZqh7jZeNf0aO7TcElSbF1hbfqUSJ39JJvsLXZITQsjRA2LMswviKsn7gRE/ G8bmEi/7Ky5N8Fn1SsLSnVeUE3IaHoWqasR56e/707xZ4/AaVLFrzzyHky+vFr/k 86i7yM4Byh8v5afQoWVLkBVH6f7/ZQ== =MCXP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hello Adrien, would you have a time to talk to me perhaps on Friday afternoon after work? Could it be https://meet.opensuse.org/lkocman Friday 18:30 CEST? Everyone is welcome to join. I can discuss with you some upcomming changes that I think could be related and we can talk about some next steps that would be best to make it happen. Lubos On Wed, 2020-08-26 at 18:44 +0200, Adrien Glauser wrote:
Hello,
This is my first post to this mailing list so I hope I won't interrupt or disrupt an ongoing conversation.
I noticed there is no systematic monitoring of the "maintenance health" of openSUSE packages, i.e.. no way for a potentially interested future maintainer to check whether this or that package is in need of extra help, or whether everything is fine. This means that it's difficult for someone willing to volunteer to appreciate the "health" of packages as far as maintenance is concerned. Of course users can see commits timelines and failed builds, but they have to try and *infer* how wanted their help is when instead they could simply *read* this information.
Also as far as I know there is no systematic monitoring of the number of users for a given package in home repositories. This means that maintainers might not always be aware that their package need to be registered against official repositories.
Now a simple web service (implemented as new feature to software-o-o, for instance, but not necessarily) could bring closer end-users and maintainers, improving the visibility of packages that need more maintainers and providing direct feedback to maintainers so as to motivate them to port their packages onto the main openSUSE distributions.
Do other people find that such a service would be useful? If people find the idea worth realizing, who should I get in touch with to make it happen?
Best,
Adrien -- --
Best regards Luboš Kocman Release Manager openSUSE Leap SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nuremberg Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Managing Director: Felix Imendörffer
Dear Lubos, Sure I should be able join you around 18:30 CEST at the jitsi address you specified. Looking forward to hearing more from you on the upcoming changes and on the idea. See you tomorrow, Adrien 2020-08-27 12:24 (GMT+00:00), Lubos Kocman <lubos.kocman@suse.com> said:
Hello Adrien, would you have a time to talk to me perhaps on Friday afternoon after work? Could it be https://meet.opensuse.org/lkocman Friday 18:30 CEST? Everyone is welcome to join. I can discuss with you some upcomming changes that I think could be related and we can talk about some next steps that would be best to make it happen. Lubos On Wed, 2020-08-26 at 18:44 +0200, Adrien Glauser wrote: Hello,
This is my first post to this mailing list so I hope I won't interrupt or disrupt an ongoing conversation.
I noticed there is no systematic monitoring of the "maintenance health" of openSUSE packages, i.e.. no way for a potentially interested future maintainer to check whether this or that package is in need of extra help, or whether everything is fine. This means that it's difficult for someone willing to volunteer to appreciate the "health" of packages as far as maintenance is concerned. Of course users can see commits timelines and failed builds, but they have to try and *infer* how wanted their help is when instead they could simply *read* this information.
Also as far as I know there is no systematic monitoring of the number of users for a given package in home repositories. This means that maintainers might not always be aware that their package need to be registered against official repositories.
Now a simple web service (implemented as new feature to software-o-o, for instance, but not necessarily) could bring closer end-users and maintainers, improving the visibility of packages that need more maintainers and providing direct feedback to maintainers so as to motivate them to port their packages onto the main openSUSE distributions.
Do other people find that such a service would be useful? If people find the idea worth realizing, who should I get in touch with to make it happen?
Best,
Adrien -- -- Best regards Luboš Kocman Release Manager openSUSE Leap SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nuremberg Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Managing Director: Felix Imendörffer
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Confirming the session at 18:30! Thank you On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 06:16 -0700, Adrien Glauser wrote:
Dear Lubos, Sure I should be able join you around 18:30 CEST at the jitsi address you specified. Looking forward to hearing more from you on the upcoming changes and on the idea. See you tomorrow, Adrien
2020-08-27 12:24 (GMT+00:00), Lubos Kocman <lubos.kocman@suse.com> said:
Hello Adrien, would you have a time to talk to me perhaps on Friday afternoon after work? Could it be https://meet.opensuse.org/lkocman Friday 18:30 CEST? Everyone is welcome to join. I can discuss with you some upcomming changes that I think could be related and we can talk about some next steps that would be best to make it happen. Lubos On Wed, 2020-08-26 at 18:44 +0200, Adrien Glauser wrote: Hello,
This is my first post to this mailing list so I hope I won't interrupt or disrupt an ongoing conversation.
I noticed there is no systematic monitoring of the "maintenance health" of openSUSE packages, i.e.. no way for a potentially interested future maintainer to check whether this or that package is in need of extra help, or whether everything is fine. This means that it's difficult for someone willing to volunteer to appreciate the "health" of packages as far as maintenance is concerned. Of course users can see commits timelines and failed builds, but they have to try and *infer* how wanted their help is when instead they could simply *read* this information.
Also as far as I know there is no systematic monitoring of the number of users for a given package in home repositories. This means that maintainers might not always be aware that their package need to be registered against official repositories.
Now a simple web service (implemented as new feature to software-o- o, for instance, but not necessarily) could bring closer end-users and maintainers, improving the visibility of packages that need more maintainers and providing direct feedback to maintainers so as to motivate them to port their packages onto the main openSUSE distributions.
Do other people find that such a service would be useful? If people find the idea worth realizing, who should I get in touch with to make it happen?
Best,
Adrien -- -- Best regards Luboš Kocman Release Manager openSUSE Leap SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nuremberg Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Managing Director: Felix Imendörffer
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On Wed 2020-08-26, Adrien Glauser wrote:
This is my first post to this mailing list so I hope I won't interrupt or disrupt an ongoing conversation.
1. Welcome! 2. Thank you! 3. Please keep going. :-) Gerald -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp@suse.com>, CTO @SUSE + chair @openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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