[opensuse-project] openSUSE 12.3 doesn't support any video types
Sadly out-of-the-box, openSUSE 12.3 doesn't support any kind of video at all, not even WebM. I have opened a bug on it "Bug 802980 - WebM Video fails to play in KDE desktop", but as release draws near the chances of it being looked at appears slim. Anyway, Red Hat's RHEL6 does WebM just fine, and it is super-important for all Open-Source software to standardize on something, and WebM video (VP8) is the best we have for now. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2013-02-28 at 06:42 +0000, Alexey Eromenko wrote:
Anyway, Red Hat's RHEL6 does WebM just fine, and it is super-important for all Open-Source software to standardize on something, and WebM video (VP8) is the best we have for now.
Why is there a comparison of an enterprise product and community product? Isn't that like comparing apples to oranges? Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
Anyway, Red Hat's RHEL6 does WebM just fine, and it is super-important for all Open-Source software to standardize on something, and WebM video (VP8) is the best we have for now. Why is there a comparison of an enterprise product and community product? Isn't that like comparing apples to oranges?
The fact that RHEL 6 apparently supports WebM means it is legally safe and royalty free to do so, and with free software, so why shouldn't openSUSE provide the same functionality? Gerald -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp@suse.com>, Director Product Management, SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Gerald, Am 04.03.2013 22:11, schrieb Gerald Pfeifer:
The fact that RHEL 6 apparently supports WebM means it is legally safe and royalty free to do so, and with free software, so why shouldn't openSUSE provide the same functionality?
Huh? SLED10 supported MP3 IIRC. I don't think this means that it is royalty free :-) Ciao, seife -- Stefan Seyfried "If your lighter runs out of fluid or flint and stops making fire, and you can't be bothered to figure out about lighter fluid or flint, that is not Zippo's fault." -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Le lundi 04 mars 2013 à 16:11 -0500, Gerald Pfeifer a écrit :
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
Anyway, Red Hat's RHEL6 does WebM just fine, and it is super-important for all Open-Source software to standardize on something, and WebM video (VP8) is the best we have for now. Why is there a comparison of an enterprise product and community product? Isn't that like comparing apples to oranges?
The fact that RHEL 6 apparently supports WebM means it is legally safe and royalty free to do so, and with free software, so why shouldn't openSUSE provide the same functionality?
Why are people arguing about something which is ALREADY supported in 12.3 (and even before 12.3) ? WebM is supported and works fine on 12.3. If not, it is a bug, which should be reported, that's it. -- Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@suse.com> SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On 05.03.2013 09:43, Frederic Crozat wrote:
Le lundi 04 mars 2013 à 16:11 -0500, Gerald Pfeifer a écrit :
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
Anyway, Red Hat's RHEL6 does WebM just fine, and it is super-important for all Open-Source software to standardize on something, and WebM video (VP8) is the best we have for now. Why is there a comparison of an enterprise product and community product? Isn't that like comparing apples to oranges?
The fact that RHEL 6 apparently supports WebM means it is legally safe and royalty free to do so, and with free software, so why shouldn't openSUSE provide the same functionality?
Why are people arguing about something which is ALREADY supported in 12.3 (and even before 12.3) ?
WebM is supported and works fine on 12.3. If not, it is a bug, which should be reported, that's it.
The subject is "12.3 doesn't support it" - which is wrong and correct at the same time. gstreamer can do it, xine does not - and KDE uses xine. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Le mardi 05 mars 2013 à 09:47 +0100, Stephan Kulow a écrit :
On 05.03.2013 09:43, Frederic Crozat wrote:
Le lundi 04 mars 2013 à 16:11 -0500, Gerald Pfeifer a écrit :
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
Anyway, Red Hat's RHEL6 does WebM just fine, and it is super-important for all Open-Source software to standardize on something, and WebM video (VP8) is the best we have for now. Why is there a comparison of an enterprise product and community product? Isn't that like comparing apples to oranges?
The fact that RHEL 6 apparently supports WebM means it is legally safe and royalty free to do so, and with free software, so why shouldn't openSUSE provide the same functionality?
Why are people arguing about something which is ALREADY supported in 12.3 (and even before 12.3) ?
WebM is supported and works fine on 12.3. If not, it is a bug, which should be reported, that's it.
The subject is "12.3 doesn't support it" - which is wrong and correct at the same time. gstreamer can do it, xine does not - and KDE uses xine.
AFAIK, xine can support webM fine too (and KDE had a backend abstraction to support gstreamer IIRc ;) Anyway, it is clearly not the right list to discuss this. -- Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@suse.com> SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 05 March 2013 09:47:24 Stephan Kulow wrote:
The subject is "12.3 doesn't support it" - which is wrong and correct at the same time. gstreamer can do it, xine does not - and KDE uses xine.
Greetings, Stephan
Hi Stephan, Nope. KDE uses gstreamer as its backend for Phonon. The Xine backend is not even in the KDE repositories anymore. Definitely 12.3 is supporting Webm protocols, but it could be that the livecd is missing a particular gstreamer package that is required for the support of Webm. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Quoting Alexey Eromenko <al4321@gmail.com>:
Sadly out-of-the-box, openSUSE 12.3 doesn't support any kind of video at all, not even WebM.
I have opened a bug on it "Bug 802980 - WebM Video fails to play in KDE desktop", but as release draws near the chances of it being looked at appears slim.
Anyway, Red Hat's RHEL6 does WebM just fine, and it is super-important for all Open-Source software to standardize on something, and WebM video (VP8) is the best we have for now.
Alexey, You raise an interesting question and I thinkg, you are right here, as long as we talk about royal-free, non-patent encumbered codecs (which is fine with Ogg/Webm/WebP). Now, I know that GStreamer based players should not have issues with these files formats (it might be that we miss a package on the live disks, but I'm sure they are in the repositories). Which Video Player did you use for testing? Do you know if that one uses GStreamer in the background? Would you have the option of testing the same on a GNOME install with Totem as videoplayer? Thanks a lot! Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
I have opened a bug on it "Bug 802980 - WebM Video fails to play in KDE desktop", but as release draws near the chances of it being looked at appears slim. I remember hitting that one too... but only sound was not playing...
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Alexey Eromenko -
Alin M Elena -
Bryen M Yunashko -
Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar -
Frederic Crozat -
Gerald Pfeifer -
Raymond Wooninck -
Stefan Seyfried -
Stephan Kulow