2008/6/11 Francis Earl
I have been in the IRC channel on freenode now for a few days, and I am utterly appalled.
I reviewed the logs of the last incident when you were kicked, and it seems justified to me. Your behaviour was contributing to exactly the kind of channel atmosphere that you complain exists in #suse. I suspect this is message is just motivated by anger at being kicked. If you have a problem with a particular op, you can always take it up with one of the others.
While I understand statements made do not represent Novell, or OpenSUSE at all, the general mood in the channel has turned me away repeatedly in the past, and it will do again if nothing is done.
I agree the attitudes some people in #suse are sometimes not ideal, but that is what happens when you have an open place where anyone can participate. The ops cannot watch every single line ever said on the channel, though the number of ops is increased as trustworthy people are identified, to improve coverage. The overall atmosphere can be improved by anyone who joins the channel.
From the channel logs it appears that it was in fact you that was rude, and removed in the interest of keeping the channel friendly.
I have used Linux for almost 10 years, people all over IRC talk bad about #debian, but they are not even half as bad as #opensuse. I would suggest contacting FreeNode and having #opensuse and #suse separated and started again, it's really appalling.
#opensuse was separate initially but forwarded once the distribution name changed to openSUSE. What the channel is called is irrelevant, the channel atmosphere is defined by those who are active at any time. This is something everyone can contribute to improving. I did address some of these common complaints a while ago. Please read http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/bweber/entry/opensuse_irc_call/ The IRC rules which will be upheld by the ops are available at http://suse-irc.org/rules.html , there are also the openSUSE guiding principles http://en.opensuse.org/Guiding_Principles . If an op's behaviour is against the spirit of either of these then that can be addressed. However, I do not see that is the case here. -- Benjamin Weber --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org