I'm not an OP in #suse, and I'm not related in any way to
Novell/openSUSE, if not as a user and external contributor. During the
last 6 years I've been using Linux starting from Mandriva, then Fedora
and finally openSUSE, being around in the channels for about three
I have been in the IRC channel on freenode now for a
few days, and I
By FreeNode naming conventions #opensuse (which forwards to #suse) is an
official project channel. I am starting to see why OpenSUSE is lacking users,
the surrounding community is outright rude. The project needs to understand
that such places are exactly where people first encounter Novell and OpenSUSE
on a personal basis.
I really think it is the first impression, because #suse is usually a
helpful channel, surely not as rough as you are describing it here.
Please, do not exchange discussions or explicit opinions for rough
behaviour. I had some animated discussions myself when I started to take
part to the community life, but well, that's part of the game. It simply
means that they listen to you, and they are open to discuss.
I sincerely prefer this to a completely "politically correct" but
While I understand statements made do not represent
Novell, or OpenSUSE at
all, the general mood in the channel has turned me away repeatedly in the
past, and it will do again if nothing is done.
Could you specifically cite examples of what causes problems to you?
I have used Linux for almost 10 years, people all over
IRC talk bad about
#debian, but they are not even half as bad as #opensuse. I would suggest
contacting FreeNode and having #opensuse and #suse separated and started
again, it's really appalling.
I think this discussion was already done in the past, and no real reason
was found to split the two channels. Users in #opensuse would be in
#suse anyway, OP or not.
OpenSUSE is technically very good, but the personal
interactions with the
community is what people judge a Linux distro on, look at Ubuntu, it's buggy
as anything, nothing at all special about the distro, yet their channel
regularly has 1500 people. Ask yourself why... it's because of the community.
If nothing changes, OpenSUSE will never be a popular project, and I seem to
recall that being a stated goal?
It's hard to support this statemet. OpenSUSE already is a popular
project. Give a look at reviews, for example.
Maybe you could try to be part of the community a bit longer than a few
days, and start to look beyond your first impression.
If you don't know what this is about, I challenge
anyone reading to just hang
out in #opensuse for a few days, look at the way the project is represented
there. I'm not sure if OpenSUSE has a community board or anything that is
intended to mediate this sort of thing, but I think it's a serious mistake to
Yes. OpenSUSE has a board: http://en.opensuse.org/Board
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