Am Donnerstag, 22. November 2012, 23:20:26 schrieb Manu Gupta:
If you have ideas, please document it onto wiki [yes that is a necessity].. just dump them.. Add your name and yes.. we will then see how it works out. We want mentors but as Rajko has already told if we dont do it, who else will. So if you are willing, start a wiki page and I will follow you for sure.
Before we write something in the Wiki, we must know which long-time Member, i ´ll think 3 are nessesary, (i´m not am Member yet) would like to do this. The Newcome must just contact one of three Members by opensuse Emailadresse and the other 2 in BCC: , that the other 2 Members knows if Newcomer has contact. I would say no contact over IRC or Mailinglist to difficult, just one Way and only one way. And this way must know every openSUSE Member on Project, so they can support this way A second Idea: is make Form to fill out in the Wiki and this will be submited to a Member so: Please fill out if you want to Participate on openSUSE-Project: Name, Emailadress, Skills, etc.... Then can contact the Member who get the Email this person an check this out... This way seems to be easier then the first... We can discuss this.. Nice Evening Johannes
Thanks Manu
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Rajko
wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:50:26 +0100 Johannes Carraro
wrote: ...
Hello everybody,
... I subcribe mailing- lists ... and read them the first times, but it didn´t tell me were i can start... We must take Newcomer by hand and show then How...
Exactly. We have many plans, but not much how to help new user overcome fear to show up and start helping.
So i ´ve got an idea.... we got to get a plan for that... Somebody from the lang time MEMBERS, should do this... A Newcomer must get a plan to get participate on opensuse-project:
1. A List of few MEMBERS (with emailadresses) which can be contact by newcomer
It would be better to use for communication: * project mail list, * project IRC channel and * forums.
I'm not familiar with forums structure to recommend proper forum, but one can start with chit-chat forum. Forum moderators will probably spot such post and help with details. Those communications will be monitored by few volunteers that will start talk with new people.
To introduce own experience and skills one can use openSUSE Connect. There is whole a lot of room on user page that can be used to introduce all details: * from projects one worked with before, * wishes what one wants to help with, * skills acquired in the school and previous projects, * skills one wants to improve, and more.
2. They (Members) should check up his Skills and what he want do (packaging, wiki, documentation..) in the project. 3. Then send him to contcact a Team (Teamleader), were he want to go or where is good for him to go
This is point where we have a missing link :)
There is no team, besides Marketing that can tell single task new user can do to start participating.
I propose to create lists of Papercuts tasks for each of projects. Small annoying stuff, simple to solve, that is waiting for someone to do. List should contain: * task name * very detailed description what has to be done * list of skills, * list of objects to fix (in the wiki that would be pages to fix) * whom to contact with questions.
What this will help is to: * define tasks that come up to do again and again * (wiki) team member will have to write instructions once and list
pages to fix. (This is often one wiki page that automatically list pages with a problem, so one will refer to that page by URL)
* it will connect experienced team members with those that want to
learn and help
4. This Plan Step-by-Step must be in the Wiki by "How to be Participate!"
Right.
Workflow would be: Wiki page - How to participate > Team page with papercuts And from that point people will already have live person to ask how to proceed.
Is this difficult, to do this in future?
No, but some has to do it.
If you can to incorporate above ideas and create plan with more details I'm here to help you and bug people with more experience that overlooked this conversation to help both of us.
Cheers Johannes
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