Op zondag 29 november 2020 10:21:47 CET schreef Michal Kubecek:
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 03:42:45AM +0100, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Op zondag 29 november 2020 03:32:33 CET schreef Michal Kubecek:
I'm sorry but I'm not sure I understand you. Do you really want to say that quoting a slightly extended version of a famous illustrative example found in various mailing list netiquette documents, e.g.
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/mailing-list-faq/etiquette.htm l https://tilde.wiki/mailing_lists#top-posting
is supposed to be considered "shaming people"?
Michal Kubecek
IMHO that is not what Neal is saying at all. But there's a huge difference between banging just a $URL in the face and "Could you please not blah, see $URL", agreed?
And I don't understand you now either. Vojtěch's e-mail started with "Bottom-posting is the standard here. Let's keep it so." - and Neal even quoted this part in his e-mail. While there is no "Could you please", I find the fact that such innocuous e-mail received this kind of bashing, extremely disturbing. I admit that Neal could have found a better example. A good example. Or better: no example But I wasn't so much referring to the example Neal used, more to the general part of his email. And probably triggered by the fact that what he describes matches my experiences..
Seriously, if it's going to be a norm to react to perfectly normal e-mails like this with public scolding and strong words like "shaming people" and "assuming ill intent", I should probably reconsider if I want to be part of such "community" and participate in openSUSE mailing lists because I could also become a victim of this "politeness police" soon.
Absolutely not.
This is all ridiculous... And also ironic that Neal accuses people of "public shaming" and "assuming ill intent" in an e-mail where he is doing exactly that.
He already admitted that I mean, Without the example you might have read Neals mail differently. Sorry, have to stop here, other obligations -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team