On 2020/12/04 16:32, Stasiek Michalski wrote:
Am Fr, 4. Dez, 2020 um 4:02 P. M. schrieb L A Walsh
On 2020/12/02 10:07, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 02/12/2020 18.54, Maurizio Galli wrote:
Keep in mind that we have developers and
packagers who may be
with Discord watching this list.
I'm absolutely sure that it is a fine tool, I have no doubts about
Discord supports its name. I used it for 2-3 years by requirement
in line with a game I was playing. It is an ideal environment to
personal _ir_responsibility and create multiple fiefdoms/cliques
forum owner gets to decide on a regular basis what you are allowed to
say and ensure that any "history" is edited and updated to reflect
If you join one of their forums (called a 'server') the first thing
you may note is you have no way to keep a record of what you wrote and
what you were responding to, other than by making a screen shot of
page of conversation.
There is no logging option and forum owners can selectively delete
content from any channel in their forum (server).
I went through situations where
agreements that were made, later were updated so original agreements
disappeared, or were slanted to create a different view.
If you come to discord for the purpose of having archives of
conversations from years back, you are probably using it wrong. Consider
it a live conversation between people, you wouldn't just record every
conversation you ever had on tape in real life (at least I hope not).
I have no issue with there being no written record of voice channels.
But we are talking about planning sessions for runs that are to last over
a period of a few months to a year or more. Links to diagrams of who
is doing what and who is in what "run-group" (out of maybe 1-6 active
run groups depending on group) were usually kept current. Some channels
maintained 10-20 pins mixed into the conversation where FAQ's were addressed
as questions came up in conversation, they'd bookmark some where they wanted
to add the answer to the list of important items.
The channels automatically "archive" postings going back years unless
cleaned out -- so a conversation that occurred 3-4 weeks before, would be
unlikely to be pruned. It's not just a chat client, its often billed as providing
support for teams developing projects.
I make sure to add people I expect to want to
communicate with after me
or they leave the server as friends for that reason.
That's nice. As these were game clans, I was looking for family type
clans for a long-term relation. Some of the clans had been around for 4-5 years
since the game went live. Unfortunately, that also meant that they often would
have core groups that originally met in real-life at work or school.
It's not like
people can't just leave of their own volition, so it's always better to
have reassurance you can message them later.
Since many were there before the game, they already had other
communication methods in place. Those leaving a group usually would be
going to a new group because of issues.
You can actually also
disable receiving messages from non-friends even if you share a server,
so it really depends on what the person wants to see in their DMs.
I saw that used, and that's fine. IF people don't want to talk to
you, that's their issue. However, the bit of no communication from
"unrelated"'s, is/was sold as a way to reduce fishing and malware attempts,
many set it up as a default. Since you are also running with these folks and
wanting a more permanent group to run with, the idea that you'd suddenly lose
contact with everyone seems a bit of a distant possibility. So often adding
group members after you joined might be seen as the first step to poaching people
away. The groups and people were competitive in the game.
> So in the game I played, you had clans -- and nearly all clans
> required you
> to also sign up for their discord as it would be used for all clan
> It actually comes across a bit odd if someone additionally sends a
> friend request
> because if you share a forum with them, it gives you no further
> While it discord supplies the ability to coordinate people on
> different schedules, it's not like email where you have a record
> of what was sent to you or what you said.
Except that what you say _can_ be archived and kept as others
wish to. It's the disparate treatment given out to 'in groups' vs. out
with many of the children there playing games in game, like ignoring you
when they organized group events.
is a good search interface -- it
has >> searching, but it really lacks flexibility.
I recommend the inbox in the top right of the screen, you can see all of
mentions of you, which is handy.
That's the search box that lack flexibility. If what you are looking for
didnt' mention you, and you don't remember who posted it, you can't even
wildcard searching for text.
I have never experienced the search
lacking flexibility, it allows you to search by pretty much every piece
of metadata in a message.
But not by the data itself. I usually remember what was "said"
in a situation, but may know none of the metadata. Not being able to
search through content is very limiting for those who remember what was said
but maybe not who said it or when.
We used that for a few game nights in the past on the
You are one of those that had a group before you came to your game.
For established groups, it can be fine, but for people who've never been
in such a group, it's easily abused. In one group, besides being thought
to be under 13, due to a voice session with new SW, I found myself with a
bunch of Christian-right guys who had recently graduated who often expressed
elitist ideas about how the group should be run, and didn't want to hear other
view. When a new dungeon came out, I was finally kicked for wanting to
go check it out before they had a chance to see pros going through in a
video so they could memorize the mech's first. They said I wass too pushy/
argumentative (because I didn't necessarily agree with their politics or want
to participate in "griefing" others.
ability to edit history and posts, and the lack of any
feature, as well as defaults that tend to make it easy to "shun" or
people you don't like anymore, make it a poor platform for doing
meaningful. Posts like this one composed of multiple paragraphs are
considered a "wall of text", and the platform itself forces you to
apart longer posts into a series of 1.5-2K chunks. So it isn't
for anything other than fluff.
Well, it's an instant messenger, and this is a standard fare with
Since when to instant messengers support instructional videos you should
watch? Pictures? Screenshots? Posted schedules with people parts in upcoming
events.... It's very much like a forum -- but no permanent archive and one that
can be selectively pruned. It's certainly not a forum or a mailing list, it's
used for instant communication instead of deliberate
That's why people would webdocs (pictures, movies, spreadsheets, diagrams..
etc? Also, it's very much non-instant except for the voice-channels when people
did runs together. Voice is instant. Talking in-depth about tactics and how
to improve isn't what I would call "chat".
It's not for everyone, I know plenty of people
for whom even
IRC is a wild concept to this day ;)
At least you can get a log of that. And those who liked it most were
friends with their circle before they got on discord. You and they would have
a different view of what is useful.