On Tuesday 09 October 2007 02:22:24 am Pascal Bleser wrote:
(cross-posting on purpose, see below)
Adrian Schröter wrote:
On Tuesday 09 October 2007 03:10:10 wrote Benji Weber:
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Some of the mirrors are broken or under heavy load, but the redirector is still redirecting people to those mirrors. This coupled with the fact that the openSUSE installer now selects "use online repositories" by default (a good thing) means that many people are experiencing failed installations.
This is easy to remedy. Make basic installation from CD running and offer clear information that system would continue installation in background. Keep some panel with installation process information available and users will be happy. Throwing everything in installation when computer can't be used for anything else is not really good, and that happened with KDE CD because I didn't expected that CD will attempt to download DVD ;-) I updated yesterday running system without interrupting normal computer usage for a second. So openSUSE is capable of doing that, all it is needed is small readjustment of installation.
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Quite a number of users have commented on this behaviour, I have experienced it myself with 2 installs already. It has also been mentioned in some reviews, contributing to overall bad reviews of 10.3.
Do you you have URLs ?
Lots, seriously. Gut feeling is that currently, there are even more bad reviews about 10.3 than 10.2 (which is quite surprising, given that 10.3 definitely hasn't got the package management issues 10.2 had).
I should read a bit something else, not only mail and newsgroups. From what I read, there is few issues that doesn't affect large number of people, or that are not major issues.
I think we should collect URLs to bad reviews somewhere (on the wiki ?) and comment them there, to try to identify what the most annoying problems were -- and whether it's just motivated by the usual "anti-Novell-because-it's-in-bed-with-MS" FUD from so-called journalists or whether they actually have a point.
What is title of the wiki page Pascal?
To me, many of the reviews are motivated by the hatred against Novell and you can feel the tone right from the start, they're just looking for things to criticize, but even in those, they may have a point with 2 or 3 things.
Sure they are attempting to sound unbiased, and for that they need few issues that are real. Though, being unbiased, as we are (^_^), is easy to recognize real issues.
Shall we discuss this on -project ? (already answered, I'm cross-posting)
IMHO, wiki.
Oh, and getting rid of compiz would probably remove 50% of the problems people have with openSUSE 10.3 but.. ok, let's keep that for -project :)
cheers
You mean, getting rid of compiz problems? :-) Put more testing in it. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org