-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 I feel very strongly that the actual actions and the process, are being completely misrepresented here. On 06/18/2015 10:51 AM, Martin Schlander wrote:
Onsdag den 17. juni 2015 13:05:16 skrev Guido Berhoerster:
Given that the decision to open up the SLE sources didn't come overnight and people iniside SUSE probably knew about it for quite some time and apparently already made up their mind
Correct, the discussion about moving SLES sources didn't come overnight, but it also doesn't impose anything on openSUSE.
makes the title and content of Richard's presentation dishonest at best.
That's quite a leap; the choice to publish SLE sources in OBS does *not* imply that openSUSE must adopt them. Among other things, it provides the option for openSUSE to do so.
There never would be an open-ended evaluation, a weighing of pros and cons with the involvement of all stakeholders of openSUSE, rather the future is already decided and those who disagree can fork their own distro.
We've been having the discussion since oSC. Nothing was decided beforehand, I can attest to that from personal experience. The only thing that's been decided so far is that Coolo, among others, has decided to try to use some of the sources in a new project, following the mantra that "those who do, decide."
If you're wondering where the us vs them thinking with regard to SUSE comes from, it's exactly this. And its utterly disappointing and a slap into the face for those outside SUSE who have put a lot of work into this project.
I'm disappointed to hear that you think so poorly of your peers in this project. Perhaps, instead of assuming bad intentions, you assumed the intentions of those working on this project/opportunity/thing are doing so with good intentions, and you try to understand the problem(s) they're trying to solve, in order to foster a healthy debate that benefits the community? Assuming bad intentions is a quick road to destroying community. - -- James Mason Technical Architect, Public Cloud openSUSE Member SUSE jmason@suse.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SUSECon 2015: Register at susecon.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVgwhbAAoJEBs5UYhsRJAjV2MH/0MzvrVIO5iGBbOxnVxdDx6z ggD+69oynNr8cuR9kL4kjku96otIo+IB4WfcD/rNKfRne+mrolj94/pGweULHGhr Bi6lMC0RCyhO2MDquTCKrGkHlRQIyukeOLb5cYKRKPtVdMr2w6onm96Oi2yqQdZU JySwnp361G5AqGgarouPJUoYblUY7zLDlBgdYH5Wk5CkrKOnEbCLgRD0xieqle3f WP/kYXi/wlU9sxrTQttowUDttYqf5YVAuBKtFJ7qGkpjR0NHRwNr5by7AVXD2dRS N2Q7Y40veVX2i//crqJ3CK06ST8e52kZ/0gn8JYTUf++tgj6Nzah9K2SaV7P71w= =Ddaz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org