Op donderdag 6 september 2018 16:22:49 CEST schreef Per Jessen:
I'd like to mention some things here, from the thread:
- The board has never been more transparent ( Vincent/Wafaa ) than
currently. - One of the ongoing items in the board meetings ( with publishing regular minutes on the project ML ) actually is transparency. Do not expect us to be perfect in this matter. FWIW we decided NOT to discuss this ( thread ) in our yesterday BM, instead to keep it here, with us as individuals taking part.
- What does sadden me: I've always felt that after standing up for
board ( not my personal plan, but on community request ) I could count votes as a statement of trust in that I would work as a board member in the interest of the community. From this thread I get that doesn't fit.
The community cannot know how you interpret their wishes and desires. The ones who voted for you no doubt trust you, but would probably still like to know. The ones who didn't vote for you might also like to know. Why should "trust but verify" not apply to you and/or the board?
So far, only one single community member ever asked me about my personal pov/ vote on subjects the board voted on and made public. This about this thread, never before. Even though I've stated in the past that I'm willing to many times.
I'm not sure what to make of that. If you don't mind, what did you think about my question - as a board member, you have been given a mandate, why should "trust but verify" not apply to you and/or the board?
If I would have known I'd be out in the open "stark naked", I doubt I would have stepped up. Has it ever occurred to someone that as a board member my first priority is the community, not by personal desires / opinions?
Your _personal_ interpretation of "community" is very important though. Maybe it doesn't coincide with somebodyelses interpretation. I still think it is your personal opinion on the community that matters.
I was in the election IRC meeting, IIRC no one asked me what my POV on 'community' is, anybody could have. And my "If you have any questions, feel free to contact me" has been out there dozens of times. And FWIW, my personal interpretation of "community" has been all over the place since openSUSE exists.
Perhaps a slightly unfortunate choice of words, but I know what you mean.
I guess you are refuting that your personal opinions matter at all. I have to ask why anyone should feel that _you_ should run in the Board election rather than any other arbitrary individual? In fact, if personae do not matter at all, we don't need an election, we can just pick board members from the community, in alphabetical sequence ?
- Are we going to deal with all the other teams like this as
well? I.e. Are the forums team going 100% transparent? Can all the mod area discussions be anonimized and publised? Same for the other teams?
If those teams are elected or appointed by the community, in principle I think we ought to.
Please also read my latest responses to this thread. I am *not against further transparency, defnitely not*. But, I do want to see this happening in a well thought through, a well balanced and ditto documented manner.
Let's not kill the idea with red tape. Let the minutes document the results of votes (5-1, 3-3, 6-0 etc) and let it be up to an individual board member whether or not to make his/her vote public, especially when asked.