On 28.12.20 08:02, Simon Lees wrote:
As a result the board decided to make the changes it did removing these emails from the factory list but keeping the snapshot email but modifying it to ask people not to reply but to create bug reports after all these emails are pretty easy to visually or programmatically filter out.
...and there were people voicing their concerns back then that this was a less-than brilliant idea, but they were ignored. Face it: about as many people that threatened to unsubscribe from factory back then are goiung to unsubscribe now, if we can no longer get help for dire problems. Bug reports are basically useless for those "running into tumbleweed update problems" cases, because they do not get read, even less answered (I'm not even talking about fixed) in a reasonable time frame. Yes, we all should do something to stop the list from going (really) off-topic on a regular base, where everyone can do its share e.g. by just ignoring certain people, but declaring that almost everything that's discussed on the list is off-topic is not a solution IMVHO.
At the time the board chose to see how the changes we made played out before creating further lists, at this point there seems to potentially be demand for a "Tumbleweed" specific list but whether there is demand for such a list if not everyone on the "development/factory" list are subscribed is probably worth figuring out.
I don't think fragmenting the community with more lists is going to help. -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman