On 5/13/21 5:55 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Neal Gompa wrote:
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 3:26 PM Per Jessen
wrote: Neal Gompa wrote:
Additionally, we intend to have regular public openSUSE Board meetings every other Monday starting on June 7 at 13:00 Europe/Berlin time on openSUSE Meet at https://meet.opensuse.org/OSBoardPublic
Hi Neal,
Bravo! I'm sure that will be most welcome, but 1300 CET seems like a pretty poor choice I think.
In Europe, where most likely the majority of our users/members reside, 1300 CET is in the middle of many/most people's workday, they might well be without the means to even access the meeting. Not to mention they'll be in the middle of their after-lunch coffees :-)
I'm sure the Board did consider it very carefully, and I appreciate deciding on a time was very difficult.
If you are doing it every other Monday, maybe also alternate the time?
There were basically no other times that both Simon Lees and myself would be able to show up. The alternative time (my afternoon, European evening) was extremely early for Simon. The compromise we have now is 7am my time, which is literally the absolute earliest I was willing to commit to.
Consistency for the time is basically mandatory because our schedules are hard to align, so alternating times would be extremely difficult to execute on (at least for me).
Yup, totally appreciate all of that. Still, repeating myself, what is the point of scheduling the public openSUSE board meeting for 1300CET when the vast majority of our members and users are busy with everyday life and work? It seems counterproductive.
If it a simple matter of yourself and Simon being unable to attend concurrently, maybe you ought to take turns?
I think the timing of the public openSUSE board meeting ought to enable the participation of as many users as possible, instead of being mostly convenient for the Board members - after all, you "serve at our pleasure" :-)
I think you might be slightly missing our aim / goal for this, which is rather then having a fortnightly meeting in private starting that meeting in public, so where possible we will discuss as many topics as possible in public before moving into private to discuss any issues. While we expect some people may add topics to the agenda and were possible we will allow them to start the discussion on them our primary objective will still be to discuss any current board topics, in the last few meetings we haven't got through everything in our agenda as it is. We will continue to have sessions such as the one at the upcoming openSUSE conference that allow the community to have a broader Q/A and discussion with the board, we certainly aren't aiming to do that fortnightly. Its probably also worth noting that When Europe / US move back to Winter time and Australia goes back to Summer time we deal with a 2hr change in times which will probably be enough to move the meeting back into the European evening. It is very hard for us as board members to serve the community effectively if we are unable to attend meetings or would have to wake up at 3am to do such :-) -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B