On Wednesday, April 17th, 2024 at 9:33 AM, Attila Pinter <adathor@protonmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, April 17th, 2024 at 8:50 AM, Simon Lees sflees@suse.de wrote:
On 4/17/24 10:50 AM, Richard Brown wrote:
On 2024-04-17 02:56, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
The minutes made it clear, the Board decided to not act on the reports of the endless nonsense in IRC
I am not aware of such a decision, and I do not see this in the minutes.
From “= Board Meeting Monday 2024-04-08 13:00 CEST =“
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/BoardMeeting
All Board Members were present
“== Moderation == * IRC bridged to matrix, but not discord * Simon has been monitoring ... and found not need for moderation for the time being.”
The board had already chosen to act in the previous meeting by adding Shawn as an additional moderator to resolve this topic. This was a short follow up discussion as it was still on the agenda from the previous meeting. Where I simply stated I had not seen anything which was factually correct as due to technical reasons my laptop was offline over the weekend when the issues happened.
Shawn only raised the fact there was issues related to one of the moderators with the board via a reply to the meeting minutes which obviously happened After this meeting.
Once we were made aware of the details I started acting on this straight away in my capacity as a long term moderator informing the board in case they wanted to take further different behavior knowing that I could act straight away in this capacity whilst I knew members of the board were still sleeping.
In practice the moderator in question was removed from the position and therefore i'm presuming the rest of the board saw the issue as resolved before they had any chance to reach a consensus on whether different action should happen. To date no one on the board has suggested the removal of moderation status from the individual in question should be over turned and they should be re instated.
Could you please help me with setting the timeframes? Was this before/after/during the conversation under "Board meeting minutes 2024-02-26"?
Just to clarify, things are a bit unclear for me in terms of order. So first the board was receiving reports about the lack of moderation on IRC. Simon started to monitor IRC as minuted under "Board meeting minutes 2024-02-26" (which was released over a month late, but that is beside the point...). What further confuses me is that Simon has been a "long term moderator on IRC", yet they had no idea about these problems. The Board then appointed Shawn to moderate IRC (2024-03-11?) ? This would further clarify the quality of moderation on IRC prior. With that we reach last week's conversation under "Board meeting minutes 2024-02-26" where Simon suggested that after monitoring the channels moderation is not required on IRC. Shawn voiced their disagreement with that statement pretty clearly... https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/message/... https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/message/...
From “= Board Meeting Monday 2024-04-08 13:00 CEST =“
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/BoardMeeting
All Board Members were present
“== Moderation == * IRC bridged to matrix, but not discord * Simon has been monitoring ... and found not need for moderation for the time being.”
Just help me understand what is the point of having a mods-team if the Board wouldn't even listen to the one person who got appointed by them and instead side with someone who is part of the problem? And when the lid blows half of the Board publicly rolls all their support back, then one resigns, the other half is either sitting idly by, or try and defend their poor position... (Just quietly, with respect also would like to remind you the last flame war (regarding the rainbow logo) on these lists which was also moderated by Simon...) -- Br, A.