On 4/8/24 18:20, Simon Lees wrote:
On 4/9/24 12:07 AM, Shawn W Dunn wrote:
On 4/8/24 03:48, Neal Gompa wrote:
== Admins & Mods == * Currently lots of toxicity and non-sense on IRC * Very unwelcoming towards, in particular, new users asking for help * AI: Simon: Will monitor #opensuse, if we reintroduce the irc matrix bridge we won't bridge that channel to matrix
#openSUSE has been relatively quiet and well-behaved the last week or two, #openSUSE-chat is still much of the same, partially due to one of the perpetrators still being a ChanOp, so it's a little hard to moderate.
The purpose and role of #openSUSE-chat has always been pretty much anything goes as long as its not a clear violation of the code of conduct and as such there should generally be pretty minimal need for moderation. I'd be hesitant to move it away from such a role without strong agreement from the community that's been active there for many years.
Maybe there is room / need for a space / channel that covers something in between primarily trying to provide support and Anything goes for say openSUSE or Linux specific chat. But i'd be doing such by creating a new channel rather then trying to change the role of #opensuse-chat.
#chat:opensuse.org on matrix is generally much more active, and currently fills that role. And openSUSE actually gets talked about there. While I can certainly understand the desire to have more general "shooting the breeze" type channels, where "openSUSE The Project" might not be the main focus of that channel, and more "openSUSE The Community" is, that really isn't what #opensuse-chat appears to me to be providing. It primarily seems to be a place for a small handful of long time users to hang out, and engage in some sort of flatulence fetish, which I personally find both crude, and unwelcoming to other folks, and question it's value to remain under the umbrella of the openSUSE organization. Just in my light skimming of the channel, when I have time to scroll through things, "openSUSE the Project" and "openSUSE the Community" are rarely discussed, and oftentimes when they *do* come up, they're only brought up in negative terms. Obviously, I can choose not to be in the channel, but is this sort of thing really representative of the project, if somebody were to somehow have #opensuse-chat be their first experience interacting with the Community?