On 09/09/2018 09:23, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
- Simon Lees email@example.com [09-08-18 19:33]:
On 09/09/2018 05:26, Per Jessen wrote:
Simon Lees wrote:
On 07/09/2018 04:13, Per Jessen wrote:
Richard Brown wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 18:31, Per Jessen firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
>> Why are all openSUSE infra tickets private by default? > > I believe the reason is that they might contain sensitive > information.
Genau. And everything the Board deals with should include sensitive information (or else, the Board shouldn't be deciding on it)
That does not preclude a board member from publicly sharing his or her vote on a topic though. As Ana did. We don't even know the name of the local sports club yet nor who asked for sponsoring nor what kind of sponsoring. I personally have no desire to know either.
Well because Ana shared her opinion you then found out mine and Richards opinion which left me in a position of feeling I should justify my opinion
That discussion / this thread only arose because we did not know your votes.
Which leaves you at the point of knowing I voted yes but not why and if you knew my reasoning you'd likely agree with my position but if you do not your more likely to disagree.
I am happy knowing just _what_ you voted. If you feel a need to defend your position to your electorate, but you cannot due to being unable to share the information needed, I recommend you resign.
Well then I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree and you can choose not to vote for me next time. Because if I vote on a controversial topic where 90% of the info is private I don't know how you expect me to be able to say why I voted in a certain way and really in my opinion knowing what I voted does not help you form an opinion of how I managed a situation but knowing why I voted most certainly does, if you don't know the why then your just guessing and your guess maybe completely wrong especially if you don't know the info and personally I don't want you to be basing your vote for me on guesses and assumptions you've made about what i've done id much rather it was based on the facts so you can actually make a proper decision.
no way to know how you voted unless you reveal such. and no one is demanding private information.
how can anyone base a vote on anyone w/o and information on their expected performance?
Well everyone on the current board has been elected from not being on the board and once we are elected to the board you really don't see that much of what we do even now we take minutes because its mostly dealing with private issues.
why do you want the membership to have to guess how you perform your elected position? do not be afraid of accountability. it is what keeps us honest.
When most of the important issues we are dealing with are in the areas of conflict resolution yes your going to have to guess although a reasonable indication might be that conflicts are generally being resolved without turning into hate threads on public mailing lists.
If you are only electing board members based on the 10% of there activities that you actually see you are probably choosing them on the wrong criteria.