I think we could make some sort of summary, I don't see many new argument recently. Here my view: I beg you not to start again a flame war, This post is to try a comparison between the various versions. And by the way I have again read all the proposals http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Strategy Initial Strategy Proposals These strategy are very well built and meaningfull. However I think they are a bit too early in time. They will probably have to be rethinked for a near future and we will probably have to choose one, say in 5 years from today... * Home for developers This is the worst situation plan. Cloud computing get a monopoly and nobody care of using his own cloud, so what the f.. could you do of an OS. Most computer only give a good browser. May be there are still some developpers for the cloud makers... and the openSUSE cloud (hosting service) may be one on the market... nearly no more linux distro in the wild :-( * Mobile and cloud ready distribution This is the most realistic future if no other thechnology come around fast. cloud computing is everywhere, but most people want they own cloud. Personal computers are used only for games, and mobile devices are the only mail/web/multiedia device really used. But may be it's a bit too early to work only in this direction ? * Base for derivatives It's the more apealing proposal for the future, and the direction we take for now (Studio...), but the name is bad. It should be "LTS base, Kde, Gnome, server and other derivatives" :-) so anybody is glad. Additional Strategy Proposals: * openSUSE – the #1 KDE distribution Just too offensive and disconnected from Novell use (IMHO) * openSUSE – For the productive poweruser This one also is appealing, and very near from other "near standard" proposals, but here also, the name is not good. should be "for the curious user" or "for the demanding user". I'm not english fluent enough to find a correct word, but we should find one. In fact we try to mean "every user no satisfied by windows :-)))", that mean or some computer experience by himself or having somebody experienced to help. * openSUSE – The Linux distribution platform I don't see how we can attract users here, or is it simply the same as developper one? * openSUSE – Status Quo, and quantified so For me it's very near from the productive one because all our users are in a way or an other productive users, so this is already what we do. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org