Hello all, I think there is no way without proprietary software and they are not much enough shipped with. Especially office-, finance-, and multimedia-software is necessary because this are the most used software. Whatever linux.org discuss about, think about the basics: - It makes crazy, that it is not possible to buy some hardware without studying the HCLs before I bought them and then to find out, that there is missing the real driver which spend me the same features as the win-driver. - If you really need to use financing-software, there is no acceptable open software for linux so this means, no way without win. - Multimedia is the most popular used software for std-users today. If you try to use the open software for linux you'll find, that the quality is much more bad than the quality of software for win. I also find it too bad, that you cannot use the most of your mm-files after installing openSuSE without searching the internet for tools and/or codecs. Aren't this the questions for new and basic user? - How many user wants to have an easy to use antivir-software without installing a serversystem? I think there is a need for. After 13 years using SuSE I think, it is too sad, that it is not possible to use linux as enduser with the same quality in this areas as win. -- gruß Oliver --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org