Lubos Lunak wrote:
On Wednesday 04 of August 2010, DenverD wrote:
On Wednesday 04 August 2010 15:18:45 DenverD wrote:
but, if three means is too much duplication, you could just drop it off of either the mail list or news.o.o. as you add the forums.. Not duplication - it's extra effort to do it, we should make it as easy as possible to setup meetings.
or, if duplication is really a problem, just send it to news.o.o and let all read it there...
mail list followers do usually have at least lynx or links, right? "links news.opensuse.org" works perfect here! :-) Andreas oh, i see i did misunderstand, and now i counter propose to announce it *First time* and for *special meetings* on http://forums.opensuse.org/english/news/announcements/ and add it to
Andreas Jaeger wrote: the event calendar on news.o.o every time..
and drop it off the mail list if three places is too many places to allow it to still be "as easy as possible to set up meetings"..
I think you're missing an important point. The KDE meeting is primarily for the KDE team, and the mailing list and IRC are the primary discussion channels for the KDE team (and this is similar for at least some of the other meetings). Therefore it is the mailing list which is the primary place to send announcements about meetings, and news.o.o calendar is a global place where to have all meetings.
Announcing KDE team meeting (or other team meetings) on forums is an extra, and one that doesn't seem to bring much value - if somebody is not willing to join the primary communication channels, how big chance is there they will join the meeting and contribute? So, I think I've missed an important detail - why is it again that we should do the extra effort of posting the announcements also to the forums? If it's automatic, fine, but right now it's not.
no, i have not missing the obvious fact that mailing lists and IRC have _historically_ been the *only* channels (not just the primary channels) used for years for all KDE (and many other) openSUSE Team meetings.. i raise the point to try to highlight that by continuing to *require* those 20-something year olds (who are fired up to get involved but literally grew up on the http Web) to learn by accident of Team existence and then come over to your old fashioned/gramps (in their eyes) way of getting things coordinated is counter productive.. to pre-judge them as unable/unlikely to contribute because they haven't joined you where you are is about the same as them pre-judging you as being overly standoffish or snobish because you won't join them where they are--right? can i ask how long 'we' want to perpetuate the current divide?? isn't it time to try to grow the ranks of contributors by all possible means? in my mind, openSUSE is missing a huge potential reservoir of budding talent by continuing to NOT flash the existence of teams meeting and working in their face at every opportunity... actually, i do believe the best way to try to get their attention (through one more means) is to have the announce mail list auto-echoed to the announce forum...WHO can make that happen...(as Carlos mentioned a while back...and, it went silently away) we will not know if it generates _any_ interest amongst the forum members until it is tried--and, in my mind it is FAR past time to at least try. if it only lights a fire under one new helper per month per team, at least that _is_ something, right? what is the current new join rate enjoyed by doing all the meeting/team advertising as we have done for how many years? DenverD -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org For additional commands, e-mail: email@example.com