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ck8 SUPER kernel?
by Jens Siebert 11 Oct '05

11 Oct '05

Hi, I've seen that Con Kolivas has released a new version (ck8) of his patchset which festures a stable version of the interesting swap-prefetching functionality. Will there be a SUPER-kernel including this patchset? -- Greetings Jens Siebert

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Super and Laptops
by Tom Cada 11 Oct '05

11 Oct '05

I am thinking of moving to 10.0 on my laptop. In particular, I like the concept of Super as my laptop even though it is a 900 MHz PIII can be slow at times. I am also a user of KDE. Some questions come to mind though. - What is the difference between Super and SLICK? - What is the pre-load/pre-link process? - I use an Atheros based WiFi card (3COM) and in testing 10.0-RC1 had to install the nongpl kernel. Is this the same for Super/SLICK? I presume that installing the nongpl kernel will overlay the Super kernel so I will lose any speed improvements. - Can I apply the Super patches to the nongpl kernel? Has this been tried? Will this cause my laptop to explode in a shower of sparks and flames??? Can I sell this effect to Hollywood or is it patented? Thanks in advance for any directions and help. Tom Cada

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Slick Final?
by Rudi Pittman 10 Oct '05

10 Oct '05

Any word on when Slick Final will be out? If I install base Suse 10..what are the steps to "upgrade" to Slick?

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Problems with apt [Waiting for headers ... forever]
by Jukka 06 Oct '05

06 Oct '05

I have some problems with apt - I cannot update/install anything because it is difficult to establish. My sources.list looks like following: rpm http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt SuSE/10.0-i386 rpmkeys base java update extra suser-jengelh suser-guru usr-local-bin suser-jogley packman packman-i686 wine suse-people suse-projects security rpm http://opensuse.linux.co.nz/apt/suser-agirardet apt/10.0 super I got these messages when I tried to update: linux:/home/jukkamy # apt update Get:1 http://opensuse.linux.co.nz apt/10.0 release [479B] 99% [Connecting to ftp4.gwdg.de (134.76.12.4)]ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 5689, errno = 0 Err http://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.0-i386 release Connection failed Fetched 479B in 4m3s (2B/s) Hit http://opensuse.linux.co.nz apt/10.0/super pkglist Hit http://opensuse.linux.co.nz apt/10.0/super release Err http://ftp4.gwdg.de SuSE/10.0-i386/rpmkeys pkglist Connection failed 93% [Waiting for headers] ...and so on Does anybody know what might be the problem?

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Re: RE: [opensuse-optimize] About OpenSuSE Super kernel
by andreas weber 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

sorry but that is not true .no srpms there opensuse-optimize(a)opensuse.org schrieb am 04.10.05 12:09:12: > > You can get the source-rpm of the suse-ck-kernel here: > > http://opensuse.linux.co.nz/ftp/pub/SUPER/files/ > > The ck-patches are here: > > http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/2.6/2.6.13/suse-2.6.13-15/ > > @Andreas: btw. there is already a ck6-patch from Con. Will there be any rpms for this? > > Greetings > > Jens > > > ----- Original Nachricht ---- > Von: andreas weber <anti_mail(a)web.de> > An: opensuse-optimize(a)opensuse.org > Datum: 04.10.2005 12:04 > Betreff: RE: [opensuse-optimize] About OpenSuSE Super kernel > > > > > > > ähhm, sorry but where are the sources of the new kernel-patch ? > > > > > > opensuse-optimize(a)opensuse.org schrieb am 03.10.05 21:13:36: > > > > > > >>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2005 at 12:16 am, in message > > > <CBF2A7DCF9D7B74E8AEC3209B96D7EF205A7F1(a)rdg-emea002e--3.emea.sgi.com>, > > > rgriman(a)sgi.com wrote: > > > > Hi :) > > > > > > > >> > Hi Andreas > > > >> > > > > >> > I think Linus's official answer I read on new schedulers is > > > >> > currently > > > >> > NO .... I can vaguely remember a kernel mailinglist post a > > > >> > year or so > > > >> > back about the CK patches, the staircase scheduler (with some > > > >> > interesting test results) ...... I sure would love to see Con's > > > >> > patches in the official Linus kernel, but der Zug ist abgefahren? > > > > > > >> > Maybe you can use your influences with Linus to enquire about it? > > > >> > > > >> This has to be done the Linus way - convince the Linux kernel > > > >> developers... > > > > > > > > > > > > But what could be done is including a SUSE kernel with Con's patches > > > and > > > > state clearly that this is a testing kernel, no support, no official > > > kernel, > > > > use at your own risk, bla, bla, bla, ... So those who are interested > > > could > > > > install it, test it and report back. I guess Linus doesn't integrate > > > these > > > > patches 'cuz of stability, testing, reliability, ... issues. Not too > > > many > > > > people are testing these patches or are giving back feedback. > > > > > > > > Just an idea ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure, great idea :D. That is why I have created the rpm's now based on > > > Con's official patches and the SUSE kernel. > > > > > > I think the issue with the Linus kernel is that it has just adopted a > > > whole set of schedulers and to integrate another one, might just be a > > > little too experimental. > > > > > > The more people using the ck patches would do the trick I am sure in > > > getting it into the official tree. > > > > > > Andreas > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-optimize-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-optimize-help(a)opensuse.org > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > XXL-Speicher, PC-Virenschutz, Spartarife & mehr: Nur im WEB.DE Club! > > Jetzt gratis testen! http://freemail.web.de/home/landingpad/?mc=021130 > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-optimize-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-optimize-help(a)opensuse.org > > > > > > Machen Sie aus 14 Cent spielend bis zu 100 Euro! > Die neue Gaming-Area von Arcor - über 50 Onlinespiele im Angebot. > http://www.arcor.de/rd/emf-gaming-1 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-optimize-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-optimize-help(a)opensuse.org > ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193

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RE: [opensuse-optimize] About OpenSuSE Super kernel
by Rafael Griman 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Hey !!! > >> > I think Linus's official answer I read on new schedulers is > >> > currently NO .... I can vaguely remember a kernel mailinglist post [...] > > But what could be done is including a SUSE kernel with Con's patches > > and > > state clearly that this is a testing kernel, no support, no official > > kernel, > > use at your own risk, bla, bla, bla, ... So those who are interested [...] > Sure, great idea :D. That is why I have created the rpm's now > based on Con's official patches and the SUSE kernel. Just read your e-mails :)" Great news ... guess who'll be installing it as soon as he can 0;) He, he, he, ... Darn !!! I won't be around a computer or Inet this weekend !!! Sure will be a long weekend :( > I think the issue with the Linus kernel is that it has just > adopted a whole set of schedulers and to integrate another > one, might just be a little too experimental. Yup, but if we test it thoroughly ... maybe we can be of some help :) > The more people using the ck patches would do the trick I am > sure in getting it into the official tree. Let's see :) Thanks for your great work !!! Rafa -- Rafa Grimán Systems Engineer Silicon Graphics Spain Santa Engracia , 120 - Planta Baja 28003 Madrid, Spain Tel: +34 91 3984200 Fax: +34 91 3984201 Móvil: +34 628 117 940 http://www.sgi.com

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ck6
by Andreas Girardet 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Hello team ck6 is now available in apt rpm http://opensuse.linux.co.nz/apt/suser-agirardet apt/10.0 super or yast http://opensuse.linux.co.nz/apt/suser-agirardet/10.0 Andreas openSUSE is SUPER: To help in the SUSE Performance Enhanced Release project visit http://www.opensuse.org/SUPER

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apt-get issues
by Andreas Weber 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

hello again. running apt-get produces following error, same with the last two slick-modified -cds: ... Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.pango... Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.perl... Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.permissions... Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.postfix... hostname: Unknown host Setting up postfix local as MDA... Setting SPAM protection to "off"... Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.prelink... running prelink, can take a long time .../usr/sbin/prelink: /usr/lib/NX/nxdesktop: Could not find one of the dependencies /usr/sbin/prelink: /usr/lib/NX/nxagent: Could not find one of the dependencies /usr/sbin/prelink: /usr/lib/NX/nxviewer: Could not find one of the dependencies /usr/sbin/prelink: /usr/lib/NX/nxproxy: Could not find one of the dependencies /usr/sbin/prelink: /opt/MozillaFirefox/lib/firefox-bin: Could not find one of the dependencies /usr/sbin/prelink: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8.0: Not enough room to add .dynamic entry /usr/sbin/prelink: /usr/sbin/xcmd: shared library /usr/lib/libsax.so.7.1.0 appears possibly non-PIC and contains conflicts. Symbol offset: 462279b8 /usr/sbin/prelink: /usr/sbin/xapi: shared library /usr/lib/libsax.so.7.1.0 appears possibly non-PIC and contains conflicts. Symbol offset: 462279b8 Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.scpm... Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.sortpasswd... Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.susehelp... DOCALLOW: localhost Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.syslog-ng... Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.xdm... Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.zmessages... Finished. apt executing: /sbin/ldconfig W: Some errors occurred while running transaction

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SLICK stats
by Andreas Girardet 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" ! SUPER Version !! 3d FPS !! app1 !! app2 !! app3 !! boot1 !! boot2 !! harddisc1 !! harddisc2 10.0 03.102005 - [[SLICK]] (with [[SUPER preloading]] and binary drivers) || 1944.400 || 4 || 3 || 23 || 33 || 8 || 118 MB in 3.02 = 39.01 MB/sec || 2384 MB in 2.00 = 1191.93 MB/sec compared to 10.0 final (preloading is now standard) 312 5 3 25 26 14 118 MB in 3.02 = 39.12 MB/sec 2336 MB in 2.00 = 1167.93 MB/sec Speed increase minimal (apart from 3d and slower first boot) but overall the SLICK system just feels more responsive. Am I right with this assumption? Can anyone provide feedback as I am certainly slightly subjective ... Andreas

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RE: [opensuse-optimize] About OpenSuSE Super kernel
by andreas weber 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

ähhm, sorry but where are the sources of the new kernel-patch ? opensuse-optimize(a)opensuse.org schrieb am 03.10.05 21:13:36: > > >>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2005 at 12:16 am, in message > <CBF2A7DCF9D7B74E8AEC3209B96D7EF205A7F1(a)rdg-emea002e--3.emea.sgi.com>, > rgriman(a)sgi.com wrote: > > Hi :) > > > >> > Hi Andreas > >> > > >> > I think Linus's official answer I read on new schedulers is > >> > currently > >> > NO .... I can vaguely remember a kernel mailinglist post a > >> > year or so > >> > back about the CK patches, the staircase scheduler (with some > >> > interesting test results) ...... I sure would love to see Con's > >> > patches in the official Linus kernel, but der Zug ist abgefahren? > > >> > Maybe you can use your influences with Linus to enquire about it? > >> > >> This has to be done the Linus way - convince the Linux kernel > >> developers... > > > > > > But what could be done is including a SUSE kernel with Con's patches > and > > state clearly that this is a testing kernel, no support, no official > kernel, > > use at your own risk, bla, bla, bla, ... So those who are interested > could > > install it, test it and report back. I guess Linus doesn't integrate > these > > patches 'cuz of stability, testing, reliability, ... issues. Not too > many > > people are testing these patches or are giving back feedback. > > > > Just an idea ;) > > > > > > Sure, great idea :D. That is why I have created the rpm's now based on > Con's official patches and the SUSE kernel. > > I think the issue with the Linus kernel is that it has just adopted a > whole set of schedulers and to integrate another one, might just be a > little too experimental. > > The more people using the ck patches would do the trick I am sure in > getting it into the official tree. > > Andreas > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-optimize-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-optimize-help(a)opensuse.org > ______________________________________________________________________ XXL-Speicher, PC-Virenschutz, Spartarife & mehr: Nur im WEB.DE Club! Jetzt gratis testen! http://freemail.web.de/home/landingpad/?mc=021130

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