August 2005 - openSUSE Optimize - openSUSE Mailing Lists

RE: [opensuse-optimize] How about x86_64?
by ALFANO GIULIO 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

Ok first step, summarize the work: 1. build the SUPER rpm for x86_64 2. test and install it on beta4 3. build cd image 4. benchmark Right? -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Girardet [mailto:agirardet@novell.com] Sent: martedì 30 agosto 2005 21.55 To: opensuse-optimize(a)opensuse.org Subject: RE: [opensuse-optimize] How about x86_64? >>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 1:45 am, in message <2C8305E0BE090E47A2BAD52A48AC911D04711C51(a)exchange1.lloyd.com>, ALFANOG(a)lloydadriatico.it wrote: > Ok, I hope to have time this week to read and set up everything. Of course I > will ask a lot of stupid question ;) Ciao Don't worry .... Stupid is my middle name ;) Andreas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-optimize-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-optimize-help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-optimize] New arch for OpenSUSE
by Adrian Schroeter 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

nordi wrote: > On Tuesday 30 August 2005 14:10, Adrian Schroeter wrote: >> > KDEPerformance-LubosLunak-video.ogg > Oh I just love people that post links to videos without any other text. > Have you ever considered that there might be people without broadband? > Downloading this thing takes like 1.5 hours for me (no flatrate!). So > could you also post some good old text to explain what is going on in > that video? sorry, there are only records from the talks on aKademy yet. But there is also an audio only file: http://ktown.kde.org/akademy2005/unprocessed/KDEPerformance-LubosLunak-audi… still 28M... Luboš, do you have some notes somewhere or can you provide them in some place of the opensuse.org wiki ? bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SuSE AG, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: adrian(a)suse.de

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"How to boot KDE in 10 seconds"
by Adrian Schroeter 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

JFYI, http://ktown.kde.org/akademy2005/unprocessed/KDEPerformance-LubosLunak-vide… -- Adrian Schroeter SuSE AG, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: adrian(a)suse.de

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New arch for OpenSUSE
by Fernando Simon 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

Hi folks, First of all, I'm Fernando Simon, 21 years old, from Brazil. Here I work with development (Web, GIS, and OCI) and databases, and I'm a Linux enthusiast. Here I work directly with Linux, compiling programs from source, compiling kernel, installing databases (Oracle and PostgreSQL). In the begin of this year I bought a laptop (x64 arch) and installed a SuSE 9.3 x64 and started to compile programs by my self. When I started to compile I saw some problems with the architecture (the /lib and /lib64), link errors, path errors.... In the end of the July I found in the a good article about a new way how to restructure a linux distribution to use a better multi-architecture support. The link to article: http://www.linuxbase.org/futures/ideas/multiarch/ My doubt is, this way can be apply in the next release for OpenSUSE? Is possible to OpenSUSE use this way by default? Hints? Thanks again Fernando Simon

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RE: [opensuse-optimize] How about x86_64?
by ALFANO GIULIO 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

Ok, I hope to have time this week to read and set up everything. Of course I will ask a lot of stupid question ;) Bye -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Girardet [mailto:agirardet@novell.com] Sent: lunedì 29 agosto 2005 22.24 To: opensuse-optimize(a)opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-optimize] How about x86_64? >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 1:59 am, in message <2C8305E0BE090E47A2BAD52A48AC911D0471160B(a)exchange1.lloyd.com>, ALFANOG(a)lloydadriatico.it wrote: > Hi everyone! > I'm very exited about openSuse and SUPER! > Waiting one minute and 40 on my laptop was embarrassing ;) > Now with beta3 I have to wait one minute, this is better but 30 seconds > would be perfect :) It should would be better I agree ;) Let's see if initng will make a difference. > Ok, ok in any case from what I read it seams to me that you will produce or > plan to produce only x86 optimized cd, no x86_64. > Can I help to change this? Do you need benchmark on x86_64? > > If you want to create x86_64 iso's and benchmark it modified compared to a standard x86_64 install, why not. I can't do it all after all ;) ... Andreas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-optimize-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-optimize-help(a)opensuse.org

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How about x86_64?
by ALFANO GIULIO 29 Aug '05

29 Aug '05

Hi everyone! I'm very exited about openSuse and SUPER! Waiting one minute and 40 on my laptop was embarrassing ;) Now with beta3 I have to wait one minute, this is better but 30 seconds would be perfect :) Ok, ok in any case from what I read it seams to me that you will produce or plan to produce only x86 optimized cd, no x86_64. Can I help to change this? Do you need benchmark on x86_64?

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Customized Con Kolivas patches broken?
by nordi 29 Aug '05

29 Aug '05

Hi everybody! I compiled my Suse kernel with the Con Kolivas patches applied (as changed by Andreas on [1]). But the new kernel crashed when I started this command: nice find / -exec usleep 0 \; Which will result in a low priority process that does disk IO and calls sched_yield() very often. This causes my kernel to oops. However, when I take a clean 2.6.12 kernel and apply the _original_ Con Kolivas patches, everything works. Also works for the default Suse kernel. So I think that the patch must be broken, maybe it is something that "patch" couldn't find. Or maybe I just can't compile right ;) It would be really great if everyone that uses the ck patches could run the above command for a minute or two and tell me if it crashes on your system. Maybe you should close your apps before you do that! Cheers nordi [1] http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/10.0_beta2_i686_SUPER#Con_Kolivas

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1 CD install ready to optimize
by Andreas Girardet 29 Aug '05

29 Aug '05

Hi there I guess you have all seen this. Can I have some special focus from this group on giving me feedback on these and suggest any optimizations to them? Another set of iso's will contain the SUPER mods also. I will do them on the basis of beta4, since preload will be fixed there and we can get ready for our rc's and I probably have some bugs and feedback from these iso's to be integrated in the next lot. We should start thinking about artwork for these. I would suggest as a minimum artwork change to 1.) Change the CDROM boot screen 2.) Change the congrats screen at the end of the install to point to the SUPER site instead of novell.com 3.) Add a special boot splash for the desktop install. If anyone here knows any graphic artists .... let me know. Have fun! Andreas > Hello fellow openSUSE enthusiasts. > > As announced last week I have now finished 2 seperate iso's based on > standard beta3. Both are single CD installation iso's without any > modifications to the actual packages. > > I will continue maintaining these and additionally to those create and > maintain a gnome iso. > > You can find them at > > ftp://opensuse.linux.co.nz/pub/SUPER/iso/ > > super- openSUSE- 20052908- standard- kde.iso: kde > base install on 1 CD (570 Mbyte) > super- openSUSE- 20052908- standard- minimal.iso: minimal > install on 1 CD (390 Mbyte) > > > A set of iso's with SUPER modifications already included will also be > available in a few days. These iso's will be called - enhanced- kde.iso > and enhanced- minimal.iso to differentiate them from the ones without any > modifications (just straight openSUSE) called - standard- kde.iso and > - standard- minimal.iso. > > This is the first set of iso's and I would please ask you to test them > and add any packages you would like to add to them to the following Wiki > page. Any bugs should also be reported to that site. > > http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/1_CD_install > > > The iso's are done using the standard recommended Novell way. I have > modified control.xml to have a more streamlined installation. I have > tried to add /boot and /home (you can see that in the control.xml), but > for some reason it ignores it, maybe a suse.de person can give me a > hint? I followed the NLD documentation from our website. Apart from that > it is a straight install of beta3. I added a new My.sel under > suse/setup/descr, which contains the needed packages. All in all a very > straight forward process and I am thoroughly impressed with the > modularity and simplicity of our installer. Having played with Anaconda > in the past, I find our installer refreshingly simple yet very > powerful. > > > Have fun! > > > > > > > Regards, > > Andreas > > openSUSE is SUPER: To help in the SUSE Performance Enhanced Release > project visit > http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/SUPER > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e- mail: opensuse- unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e- mail: opensuse- help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: PePr on beta3
by Andreas Girardet 27 Aug '05

27 Aug '05

Hi Stefan I think we should start using this list and I have replied to your message via the mailing list. Can you subscribe to it please and reply to it via the list? > Did you get a chance to try out PePr? No ... Family time ..... and tomorrow will also be spend with my kids .... > I have put a second release on my > page which tries to make sure that it really runs in the background and > does not impact the user. This is necessary because my personal preload > file lists more than 2000 files. Preloading those takes a while ;) I > would really know how PePr performs now, especially since startup times > seem to have decreased a lot for beta3 even without SUPER. > Yeah ... good stuff :) .. my test (look at the benchmark for beta3 ... says the same. I am very happy about SUSE! I am running the x86_64 beta3 on my home machine and it sure is fast even without any mods .... > Also note that the syntax for the preload file has changed with preload > 0.2, so your KDE preloading during boot probably does not work any longer. > > I will not test beta3, only beta4. Beta4 will contain the (hopefully) > final&working version of Suse's preload package, which includes support > for preloading after KDE startup. So the first pieces of SUPER have > already made their way into the official openSUSE release! They are (as > far as I can see) not enabled by default, but very easy to activate. > Yes I know ..... fantastic! ... We are making a difference already ..... and this is just the beginning. Good work! > Beta4 will also give me the opportunity to integrate your KDE preloading > into the boot process in a cleaner way. It is done right after mount, very early on in S08boot.preload_early and S10boot.preload as I had suggested boot.preload at the same time with boot.localnet. > I want to wait until beta4 > because now Suse also preloads stuff. They only preload files used > during bootup, but this might change the situation enough that it > becomes necessary to adapt KDE preloading to not interfere with boot > preloading. Stephan Kulow from Suse has told me that as far as > preloading is concerned, beta3 does not contain all the bells and > whistles that beta4 will contain, so this has to wait for a few days. I > also plan to integrate GNOME preloading for the GNOME users. > I have seen the message from Coolo in bugzilla also ... I agree that we should hold off with any more work until beta4 comes out. I won't be able to do too much until then anyhow. And I will have beta4 on Wednesday ..... and Thursday it is released .... not much time our real work will start once rc is done and especially once final is done. Then at least things won't change as much and we can concentrate on our speed-install iso's. Once we have done our first SUPER we can concentrate on doing more .... Well done Stefan for your excellent work with preloading and getting it into beta3-4! Regards, Andreas openSUSE is SUPER: To help in the SUSE Performance Enhanced Release project visit http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/SUPER

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Announce opensuse-optimize@opensuse.org mailing list
by Andreas Girardet 27 Aug '05

27 Aug '05

Hello fellow openSUSE community members Who doesn't likes to optimize his/her SUSE installation? If you do then you should join us in the new list opensuse-optimize(a)opensuse.org. Just send an email to opensuse-optimize-subscribe(a)opensuse.org to subscribe. Optimize does not only mean speed it also means to change the default behavior or add features, that for one reason or another are not in your normal SUSE distro. The target is also to create bugzilla entries to allow those features/enhancements to go into the normal release. The optimize mailinglist is as also the official mailing list for people interested in SUPER, SuSE performance enhanced Release http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/SUPER. And remember to have fun! Have a great weekend testing beta3. Andreas Girardet openSUSE is SUPER: To help in the SUSE Performance Enhanced Release project visit http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/SUPER

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