Dear marketeers,
For those among us (esp our ambassadors) who frequently talk to people about openSUSE, I have drafted up three elevator pitches for respectively beginner, advanced and pro linux users to explain to them why THEY should check out openSUSE.
The pitches can be found on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE and I'd be very happy with improvements. In case they are obvious, please just edit the wiki (that's what it is for) to make sure we don't end up in huge discussions about minor details* ;-)
Thanks, Jos
PS you are all aware of the presentations in GIT, yes? Here: https://gitorious.org/opensuse-artwork/opensuse-artwork/trees/master/slides I know they are hard to download but you can get it by cloning it to your hard drive. There is a mirror where you can download stuff right away from Bruno: http://linux.ioda.net/openSUSE/git/opensuse-artwork/slides/
*anyone who hasn't read bikeshed.com should do so NOW :D
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Jos Poortvliet jos@opensuse.org wrote:
Dear marketeers,
For those among us (esp our ambassadors) who frequently talk to people about openSUSE, I have drafted up three elevator pitches for respectively beginner, advanced and pro linux users to explain to them why THEY should check out openSUSE.
The pitches can be found on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE and I'd be very happy with improvements. In case they are obvious, please just edit the wiki (that's what it is for) to make sure we don't end up in huge discussions about minor details* ;-)
lol awesome.
I added a little 'key points' line to summarize in just a few words (reminders of the main topics, to write on your hand :) )
I think a couple of specific development tools could be mentioned in the FOSS developer section, but didn't know what to put - please add something you think suitable? GIT, Anjuta, Eclipse, OSC? Mono... :P ?
Also would a Sysadmin section be useful addition? ( Tony, I'm looking at you! :) )
*getting on my bike now....*
cheers
Helen
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:05:59 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
For those among us (esp our ambassadors) who frequently talk to people about openSUSE, I have drafted up three elevator pitches for respectively beginner, advanced and pro linux users to explain to them why THEY should check out openSUSE.
The pitches can be found on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE and I'd be very happy with improvements. In case they are obvious, please just edit the wiki (that's what it is for) to make sure we don't end up in huge discussions about minor details* ;-)
At LinuxTag I was challenged by a user to say 'why openSUSE over Kubuntu?' and had a think about a better answer than 'our KDE is better'. The answer I gave him was that openSUSE is a project which plays nicer with its neighbours, so by using and contributing to openSUSE you are benefitting Free Software generally, not just Ubuntu. Is that a fair answer? Do should we include such comparisons in our elevator pitches?
Will
-- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Will Stephenson wstephenson@suse.de wrote:
At LinuxTag I was challenged by a user to say 'why openSUSE over Kubuntu?' and had a think about a better answer than 'our KDE is better'. The answer I gave him was that openSUSE is a project which plays nicer with its neighbours, so by using and contributing to openSUSE you are benefitting Free Software generally, not just Ubuntu. Is that a fair answer? Do should we include such comparisons in our elevator pitches?
Will
That's a great answer and reminds me of when Jos pointed out that the word 'Linux' doesn't get a mention on the Ubuntu website.
Though having said that, I'm never keen to disparage other distros, for a bunch of reasons that I won't ramble on about here. I usually prefer to focus on our positives without using comparison.
How about adding something like 'openSUSE Gives Back' with a comment about contributing upstream?
In a way the actual giving-back stuff tends to get a bit muddled up with general 'community' so a separate section in the 'more details' might be worthwhile. Possibly those sections could do with a little organizing, I'll try to take a look tomorrow if I get my work done.
cheers
Helen
2011/5/19 Helen South helen.south@opensuse.org:
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Will Stephenson wstephenson@suse.de wrote:
At LinuxTag I was challenged by a user to say 'why openSUSE over Kubuntu?' and had a think about a better answer than 'our KDE is better'. The answer I gave him was that openSUSE is a project which plays nicer with its neighbours, so by using and contributing to openSUSE you are benefitting Free Software generally, not just Ubuntu. Is that a fair answer? Do should we include such comparisons in our elevator pitches?
I don't know if is a fair answer but I think is a great answer ;-)
Will
That's a great answer and reminds me of when Jos pointed out that the word 'Linux' doesn't get a mention on the Ubuntu website.
Though having said that, I'm never keen to disparage other distros, for a bunch of reasons that I won't ramble on about here. I usually prefer to focus on our positives without using comparison.
+1 on not making comparisons with others
How about adding something like 'openSUSE Gives Back' with a comment about contributing upstream?
I think we could use that next to 'More than a Product'
In a way the actual giving-back stuff tends to get a bit muddled up with general 'community' so a separate section in the 'more details' might be worthwhile. Possibly those sections could do with a little organizing, I'll try to take a look tomorrow if I get my work done.
cheers
Helen
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Generally the elevator peaches got many peoples attention and basically gives the skeleton structure any ambassador need for a speach about openSUSE, another great tool we must streghten the more we can. Kostas
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Kostas Koudaras warlordfff@gmail.com wrote:
2011/5/19 Helen South helen.south@opensuse.org:
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Will Stephenson wstephenson@suse.de wrote:
At LinuxTag I was challenged by a user to say 'why openSUSE over Kubuntu?' and had a think about a better answer than 'our KDE is better'. The answer I gave him was that openSUSE is a project which plays nicer with its neighbours, so by using and contributing to openSUSE you are benefitting Free Software generally, not just Ubuntu. Is that a fair answer? Do should we include such comparisons in our elevator pitches?
I don't know if is a fair answer but I think is a great answer ;-)
Will
That's a great answer and reminds me of when Jos pointed out that the word 'Linux' doesn't get a mention on the Ubuntu website.
Though having said that, I'm never keen to disparage other distros, for a bunch of reasons that I won't ramble on about here. I usually prefer to focus on our positives without using comparison.
+1 on not making comparisons with others
How about adding something like 'openSUSE Gives Back' with a comment about contributing upstream?
I think we could use that next to 'More than a Product'
In a way the actual giving-back stuff tends to get a bit muddled up with general 'community' so a separate section in the 'more details' might be worthwhile. Possibly those sections could do with a little organizing, I'll try to take a look tomorrow if I get my work done.
cheers
Helen
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Generally the elevator peaches got many peoples attention and basically gives the skeleton structure any ambassador need for a speach about openSUSE, another great tool we must streghten the more we can. Kostas
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I love all these points, need to get the Ambassador to start using those Awesome work guys.
On Thursday 19 May 2011 16:37:08 Chuck Payne wrote:
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Kostas Koudaras warlordfff@gmail.com
wrote:
2011/5/19 Helen South helen.south@opensuse.org:
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Will Stephenson wstephenson@suse.de
wrote:
At LinuxTag I was challenged by a user to say 'why openSUSE over Kubuntu?' and had a think about a better answer than 'our KDE is better'. The answer I gave him was that openSUSE is a project which plays nicer with its neighbours, so by using and contributing to openSUSE you are benefitting Free Software generally, not just Ubuntu. Is that a fair answer? Do should we include such comparisons in our elevator pitches?
I don't know if is a fair answer but I think is a great answer ;-)
Will
That's a great answer and reminds me of when Jos pointed out that the word 'Linux' doesn't get a mention on the Ubuntu website.
Though having said that, I'm never keen to disparage other distros, for a bunch of reasons that I won't ramble on about here. I usually prefer to focus on our positives without using comparison.
+1 on not making comparisons with others
How about adding something like 'openSUSE Gives Back' with a comment about contributing upstream?
I think we could use that next to 'More than a Product'
In a way the actual giving-back stuff tends to get a bit muddled up with general 'community' so a separate section in the 'more details' might be worthwhile. Possibly those sections could do with a little organizing, I'll try to take a look tomorrow if I get my work done.
cheers
Helen
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Generally the elevator peaches got many peoples attention and basically gives the skeleton structure any ambassador need for a speach about openSUSE, another great tool we must streghten the more we can. Kostas
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I love all these points, need to get the Ambassador to start using those Awesome work guys.
Yup, we do. Can be done by blogging about it, for example :D I've scheduled a blog about this already. Feel free to mail the ambassador list with a reminder on the info we have or take other initiatives.
On Thursday 19 May 2011 11:15:34 Will Stephenson wrote:
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:05:59 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
For those among us (esp our ambassadors) who frequently talk to people about openSUSE, I have drafted up three elevator pitches for respectively beginner, advanced and pro linux users to explain to them why THEY should check out openSUSE.
The pitches can be found on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE and I'd be very happy with improvements. In case they are obvious, please just edit the wiki (that's what it is for) to make sure we don't end up in huge discussions about minor details* ;-)
At LinuxTag I was challenged by a user to say 'why openSUSE over Kubuntu?' and had a think about a better answer than 'our KDE is better'. The answer I gave him was that openSUSE is a project which plays nicer with its neighbours, so by using and contributing to openSUSE you are benefitting Free Software generally, not just Ubuntu. Is that a fair answer? Do should we include such comparisons in our elevator pitches?
Actually, that's in the 2nd and 3rd elevator pitches. For those new to linux, it's not really relevant - we shouldn't bother them with the infighting/competition. But the 2nd and 3rd level (ppl who know linux and ppl who already contribute) should certainly be told about that. But again, if it's not in there clear enough, fix it, as I did have it in mind when writing.
Will
-- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany
Very nice page and informative ..
On 5/19/11, Jos Poortvliet jos@opensuse.org wrote:
On Thursday 19 May 2011 11:15:34 Will Stephenson wrote:
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:05:59 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
For those among us (esp our ambassadors) who frequently talk to people about openSUSE, I have drafted up three elevator pitches for respectively beginner, advanced and pro linux users to explain to them why THEY should check out openSUSE.
The pitches can be found on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE and I'd be very happy with improvements. In case they are obvious, please just edit the wiki (that's what it is for) to make sure we don't end up in huge discussions about minor details* ;-)
At LinuxTag I was challenged by a user to say 'why openSUSE over Kubuntu?' and had a think about a better answer than 'our KDE is better'. The answer I gave him was that openSUSE is a project which plays nicer with its neighbours, so by using and contributing to openSUSE you are benefitting Free Software generally, not just Ubuntu. Is that a fair answer? Do should we include such comparisons in our elevator pitches?
Actually, that's in the 2nd and 3rd elevator pitches. For those new to linux, it's not really relevant - we shouldn't bother them with the infighting/competition. But the 2nd and 3rd level (ppl who know linux and ppl who already contribute) should certainly be told about that. But again, if it's not in there clear enough, fix it, as I did have it in mind when writing.
Will
-- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:05:59 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Dear marketeers,
For those among us (esp our ambassadors) who frequently talk to people about openSUSE, I have drafted up three elevator pitches for respectively beginner, advanced and pro linux users to explain to them why THEY should check out openSUSE.
The pitches can be found on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE
I checked the elevator pitches. Some great improvements, thanks! Esp the 'key points' are awesome :D
But when I tried to say them in 30 seconds, I discovered they are way too long. I should've tested them the first time I wrote them, sorry!!!
I made new ones on top, which are really about 30-40 seconds. Very difficult to make a 30 sec openSUSE description but that is what they were supposed to be...
Review them on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE
Should we remove the long ones to clean up the page?
I have also put them in the attached document and I want to print them on a4 and ship them with our event boxes to our ambassadors. So they can use them! It'd be nice if we could get translations for that. So the german people get german pitches, the French French ones etc.
So who will send me a translated version of the attached document?
xxx Jos
On 05/27/2011 12:36 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:05:59 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Dear marketeers,
For those among us (esp our ambassadors) who frequently talk to people about openSUSE, I have drafted up three elevator pitches for respectively beginner, advanced and pro linux users to explain to them why THEY should check out openSUSE.
The pitches can be found on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE
I checked the elevator pitches. Some great improvements, thanks! Esp the 'key points' are awesome :D
But when I tried to say them in 30 seconds, I discovered they are way too long. I should've tested them the first time I wrote them, sorry!!!
I made new ones on top, which are really about 30-40 seconds. Very difficult to make a 30 sec openSUSE description but that is what they were supposed to be...
Review them on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE
Should we remove the long ones to clean up the page?
I have also put them in the attached document and I want to print them on a4 and ship them with our event boxes to our ambassadors. So they can use them! It'd be nice if we could get translations for that. So the german people get german pitches, the French French ones etc.
So who will send me a translated version of the attached document?
xxx Jos
Did I win ?
Find the french translated one.
On 05/27/2011 08:29 PM, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 05/27/2011 12:36 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:05:59 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Dear marketeers,
For those among us (esp our ambassadors) who frequently talk to people about openSUSE, I have drafted up three elevator pitches for respectively beginner, advanced and pro linux users to explain to them why THEY should check out openSUSE.
The pitches can be found on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE
I checked the elevator pitches. Some great improvements, thanks! Esp the 'key points' are awesome :D
But when I tried to say them in 30 seconds, I discovered they are way too long. I should've tested them the first time I wrote them, sorry!!!
I made new ones on top, which are really about 30-40 seconds. Very difficult to make a 30 sec openSUSE description but that is what they were supposed to be...
Review them on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE
Should we remove the long ones to clean up the page?
I have also put them in the attached document and I want to print them on a4 and ship them with our event boxes to our ambassadors. So they can use them! It'd be nice if we could get translations for that. So the german people get german pitches, the French French ones etc.
So who will send me a translated version of the attached document?
xxx Jos
Did I win ?
Find the french translated one.
In fact remove the previous one. We made a new version with a team (serge, yaloki, myself)
On Friday 27 May 2011 20:29:40 Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 05/27/2011 12:36 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:05:59 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Dear marketeers,
For those among us (esp our ambassadors) who frequently talk to people about openSUSE, I have drafted up three elevator pitches for respectively beginner, advanced and pro linux users to explain to them why THEY should check out openSUSE.
The pitches can be found on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE
I checked the elevator pitches. Some great improvements, thanks! Esp the 'key points' are awesome :D
But when I tried to say them in 30 seconds, I discovered they are way too long. I should've tested them the first time I wrote them, sorry!!!
I made new ones on top, which are really about 30-40 seconds. Very difficult to make a 30 sec openSUSE description but that is what they were supposed to be...
Review them on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE
Should we remove the long ones to clean up the page?
I have also put them in the attached document and I want to print them on a4 and ship them with our event boxes to our ambassadors. So they can use them! It'd be nice if we could get translations for that. So the german people get german pitches, the French French ones etc.
So who will send me a translated version of the attached document?
xxx Jos
Did I win ?
You were certainly the first :D
Harrash me for a beer at oSC :D
Find the french translated one.
On 5/27/2011 at 02:17 PM, in message 4DE006E3.6060209@ioda-net.ch, Bruno
Friedmann bruno@ioda-net.ch wrote:
On 05/27/2011 08:29 PM, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 05/27/2011 12:36 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:05:59 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Dear marketeers,
For those among us (esp our ambassadors) who frequently talk to people about openSUSE, I have drafted up three elevator pitches for respectively beginner, advanced and pro linux users to explain to them why THEY should check out openSUSE.
The pitches can be found on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE
I checked the elevator pitches. Some great improvements, thanks! Esp the
'key
points' are awesome :D
But when I tried to say them in 30 seconds, I discovered they are way too long. I should've tested them the first time I wrote them, sorry!!!
I made new ones on top, which are really about 30-40 seconds. Very difficult
to make a 30 sec openSUSE description but that is what they were supposed to
be...
Review them on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE
Should we remove the long ones to clean up the page?
I have also put them in the attached document and I want to print them on a4
and ship them with our event boxes to our ambassadors. So they can use them!
It'd be nice if we could get translations for that. So the german people get
german pitches, the French French ones etc.
So who will send me a translated version of the attached document?
xxx Jos
Did I win ?
Find the french translated one.
In fact remove the previous one. We made a new version with a team (serge, yaloki, myself)
Jos offers Beer and more join. Now he's owes 4 beers. Awesome payment method.
Στις 04/06/2011 06:40 πμ, ο/η Alan Clark έγραψε:
On 5/27/2011 at 02:17 PM, in message4DE006E3.6060209@ioda-net.ch, Bruno
Friedmannbruno@ioda-net.ch wrote:
On 05/27/2011 08:29 PM, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 05/27/2011 12:36 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:05:59 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Dear marketeers,
For those among us (esp our ambassadors) who frequently talk to people about openSUSE, I have drafted up three elevator pitches for respectively beginner, advanced and pro linux users to explain to them why THEY should check out openSUSE.
The pitches can be found on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE
I checked the elevator pitches. Some great improvements, thanks! Esp the
'key
points' are awesome :D
But when I tried to say them in 30 seconds, I discovered they are way too long. I should've tested them the first time I wrote them, sorry!!!
I made new ones on top, which are really about 30-40 seconds. Very difficult to make a 30 sec openSUSE description but that is what they were supposed to be...
Review them on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Why_openSUSE
Should we remove the long ones to clean up the page?
I have also put them in the attached document and I want to print them on a4 and ship them with our event boxes to our ambassadors. So they can use them! It'd be nice if we could get translations for that. So the german people get german pitches, the French French ones etc.
So who will send me a translated version of the attached document?
xxx Jos
Did I win ?
Find the french translated one.
In fact remove the previous one. We made a new version with a team (serge, yaloki, myself)
Jos offers Beer and more join. Now he's owes 4 beers. Awesome payment method.
If we're at a booth, at the end of the newbie section, you can add:
*You can bring your laptop with you and we'll help you install (dual boot or mono boot) openSUSE.*
Of course if before you had a chance to demonstrate openSUSE (KDE or Gnome).
At least, it's something I do here in Greece. Until now, I had 2-3 people that brought their laptops to install it.
Le 05/06/2011 10:13, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) a écrit :
If we're at a booth, at the end of the newbie section, you can add:
*You can bring your laptop with you and we'll help you install (dual boot or mono boot) openSUSE.*
I just did yesterday on a high end laptop (asus game machine), and it went smoothly as never! only the wifi didn't start well and I hadn't the time to fix this. The user was delighted, he was scared with the partitionning step, but the openSUSE default was perfect (dualboot w7).
so yes, an install party is now pretty pleasant
jdd
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