On Tuesday 24 May 2011 22:57:12 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Tuesday 24 May 2011 16:23:20 Izabel Valverde wrote:
2011/5/24 jdd
Le 24/05/2011 13:12, Okuro Okiawa a écrit :
Hence, openSUSE has to be presented as an easy and comfortable solution for your work to take away the "fear" of some people of "damaging" anything when they touch their OS...
be warned that openSUSE is *not* designed for dummies (no Linux is). It's nice to be installed to your friend that can ask you for help. I real newbie will not use openSUSE if not preinstalled and configured.
jdd
Hi jdd,
I strongly disagree with your words or better saying quote! If is not for dummies how can we explain the success case in elementary schools or in digital inclusion projects?
If we still defending that linux is not for everyone we always will live like now with bunch of people with closed mind or worst thinking that are superior just because run linux or whatever in their own pc.
It's time to change our minds and if you need a close case I can show you a school full of newbies that make TV, Radio, Publicity and much more using linux as their base.
We all should think about it... or at least write in a different way ;-)
The thing that is limiting us is not Linux itself. openSUSE is not per-se harder than Windows. But it doesn't have the vendor support, it doesn't have the neighboor-next-door who can help and it is unfamiliar. And you can't easily buy a PC with it. And it is seen as 'different' so if something goes wrong, you blame linux (while if something goes wrong with Windows most ppl blame themselves).
It is more of a cultural issue, not a technical one. But that doesn't change the fact that JDD is indeed right. If linux is to have a chance, it's gonna be with professionals (the ones we target!) and on dumbed-down devices like tablets (which the openSLX/KDE/Plasma Active team is targeting).
Just my 2 cents on this issue :D
Sorry Jos but I think this is wrong, my parents and my brother all use Linux they don't need to know how it works only that it does work. When they want to burn a DVD they load K3b, when they want to connect to wifi network they click network manager. IT Professionals most likely use bash so therefore what's the point of KDE/Gnome? Why bother using wifi? IT Professionals probably use Ethernet? Unless we get Linux out to the masses we will never get hardware support. How much hardware support to Microsoft Dos v 1 have? OK we hare now nearly on 12, and look how far we have come. Yes there is a long way to go, but unless we market our product with its STRENGTHS and not its WEAKNESSES what is the point of a marketing team at all? Who are we marketing to? other Linux users? small market to keep infighting - we need to look outside to the big wide world and focus on them. Let the professionals use Enterprise and lets focus our open efforts on the open world...
Izabel
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